Time to bring some spice...I've been in the game for a long time now (compared to most of the people on here) and I've met a lot of people. I'm keeping this as a stateside, as I don't believe we can make commentary on other cultures unless being part of that culture. I've heard the reasons for why most trials riders are all huge dorks, but it still doesn't make sense. It's obvious that for anyone to put in a few years into trials they have to be patient and smart...but does that mean they have to be a complete douche? Is the "technicality" of our sport...I don't know. I've met very few people that I ride who I would be interested in hanging out with, outside of bikes. I've probably met over a hundred riders, from all over the country in my last 4 years of riding. I guess what brought this on was watching jeff lenosky's keepin' it real the other day and it gave me flashbacks to when I actually had a goal to ride for, and I loved riding- I would do it all day, every day. Now I'm hundreds of times better, and have no interest in touching a bike. I know there is tons that I would like to learn, but I have no reason to do so. I hate the scene, for the most part the people, for lack of a better word, are fucking :greddy: . I feel like JJ or dan drain, "he's an asshole"