Thanks for that, yeah I looked at pictures of the ES3 and it is the same. That said, the head tube has “Echo urban” stamped right into to it so I guess they were sold as both or the name transitioned at some point?
And about the IS on frame, unfortunately I have to run the disc brakes for now as that rim brake rim is dented and cracked such that the brakes rub the tire in one spot… I’ll have to be gentle with it until I can sort out another rim. Fingers crossed
Luckily I have a backup frame, but I don’t like the geometry as much. It has longer chainstays and front center and a slacker head angle.
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And about the IS on frame, unfortunately I have to run the disc brakes for now as that rim brake rim is dented and cracked such that the brakes rub the tire in one spot… I’ll have to be gentle with it until I can sort out another rim. Fingers crossed
Luckily I have a backup frame, but I don’t like the geometry as much. It has longer chainstays and front center and a slacker head angle.
