training articles about HIT, not for everyone!

Discussion in 'Observed Trials Discussion' started by jimmybikes, Mar 28, 2004.

  1. jimmybikes

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    When I first started training athletes using HIT there was very little information on the Internet about it. These articles are not meant to be for every body, they are for a few people that are interested in the area of fitness. Very few people understand HIT even today, most people think doing more exercise and going for longer periods of time are the way to train. I have posted some articles about training below they are not what most people would expect. I do not agree with every thing that every article states, but if you want to understand how to get stronger or faster, these articles will give you a basic understanding of what to do. Most trainers have never trained athletes using HIT and have no understanding of it, they believe it is impossible to train for such short periods of time and so seldom and see big gains, they are wrong. I hope you enjoy these articles. If some of them are listed twice, I am sorry!

    Jim VanSchoonhoven

    healthfitness.com.au/arti...acity.html
    www.readysetgofitness.com...ation.html
    www.fitnesspastfifty.com/...e1044.html
    www.ensureyoursuccess.net...truth.html
    www.spineguys.com/newslet...32003c.asp
    www.runnersworld.com/home...nnersWorld read side bar too!
    cr.yp.to/postpropter/intensity.txt
    www.napa.ufl.edu/2001news...potato.htm
    www.chiprehab.com/news/gazette.htm
    www.lifewiseonline.com/hh...tivity.asp Notice heart rate range!
    www.drsarahcimperman.com/...m#research
    www.hopkins-arthritis.som...se_ra.html
    www.mcg.edu/news/2002NewsRel/gutin.html
    216.239.53.104/search?q=c...n&ie=UTF-8
    www.cptips.com/hit.htm
    www.wsu.edu/athletics/str...tmetab.htm
    216.239.53.104/search?q=c...n&ie=UTF-8
    www.jbst.com/factsheets/interval1.html
    www.houstontexans.com/pho...091902.pdf
    home.hia.no/~stephens/xctheory.htm
    www-rohan.sdsu.edu/dept/c...mujika.htm
    www-rohan.sdsu.edu/dept/c...askill.htm
    www-rohan.sdsu.edu/dept/c...illat2.htm
    www-rohan.sdsu.edu/dept/c...71/lin.htm
    www-rohan.sdsu.edu/dept/c...cholso.htm
    www-rohan.sdsu.edu/dept/c...1/hill.htm
    www-rohan.sdsu.edu/dept/c...calbet.htm
    www-rohan.sdsu.edu/dept/c...yburgh.htm
    www.eliteathletetraining....le_25.aspx
    www.eliteathletetraining....le_28.aspx
    www.eliteathletetraining....le_30.aspx
    www.eliteathletetraining....le_22.aspx
    www.eliteathletetraining....le_11.aspx
    www.eliteathletetraining....cle_8.aspx
    www.eliteathletetraining....le_10.aspx
    www.ultimate-exercise.com/
    www.i-a-r-t.com/articles/...aling.html
    www.i-a-r-t.com/articles/bulletin1.html
    www.i-a-r-t.com/articles/bulletin2.html
    www.i-a-r-t.com/articles/tendon.html
    www.classicx.com/html/14less.html
    www.classicx.com/html/10sleep.html
    www.classicx.com/html/4slow.html
    www.classicx.com/html/3life.html
    www.classicx.com/html/1stp.html
    www.pponline.co.uk/encyc/0685.htm
    www.pponline.co.uk/encyc/0028.htm
    www.pponline.co.uk/encyc/0100.htm
    www-rohan.sdsu.edu/dept/c.../flynn.htm
    www-rohan.sdsu.edu/dept/c...illani.htm
    www-rohan.sdsu.edu/dept/c...smith1.htm
    www-rohan.sdsu.edu/dept/c...gelkir.htm
    omicron.felk.cvut.cz/FAQ/...a1520.html
    www.hardgainer.com/articles/24-62.html
    www.hardgainer.com/articles/01-51.html
    www.hardgainer.com/articles/30-72.html
    www.cyberpump.com/preview/sense.html
    www.ageless-athletes.com/...etes.shtml
    www.ageless-athletes.com/...mits.shtml
    www.naturalstrength.com/f...icleID=109
    www.strongerathlete.com/feb_7_03.html
    www.i-a-r-t.com/articles/...annie.html
    www.i-a-r-t.com/articles/...ement.html
    www.i-a-r-t.com/articles/...-nsca.html
    www.i-a-r-t.com/articles/...-nsca.html
    www.strongerathlete.com/jul_22_02.html
    www.i-a-r-t.com/articles/...osion.html
    www.hopkins-arthritis.som...se_ra.html
    www.readysetgofitness.com...elease.htm
    www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/entr...t=Abstract
    www.readysetgofitness.com...530%.htm
    www.sacbee.com/content/wo...6332c.html
    www.exrx.net/FatLoss/HIITvsET.html
    kidshealth.org/research/c...ining.html
    www.dr-bob.org/babble/psy...44535.html
    www.personalhealthzone.co...nsity.html
    www.mikementzer.com/aerobic.html
     
  2. Justr1ght

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    Hey man.. U live near me...
    Are u one of those desalvo riders I have been hearing so much about...
    ??
    Eric
     

  3. OTAdmin

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    Thanks for the links Jim... stickied.

    Bill
     
  4. Pancho

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    No, but his son is. Jimmy is Jeremy Vanschoonhoven's father. Jeremy rides a DeSalvo, and is currently the best rider in North America.
     
  5. jimmybikes

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    I do coach a number of riders that ride Desalvo bikes, my son is the only trials rider that I coach, but I coach a pro cross country rider that rides a DeSalvo.

    My son and I have done demos in your area before.

    Jim VanSchoonhoven
     
  6. Justr1ght

    Justr1ght Guest

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    Well I am just getting into riding and would lov' to ride with some people...
    I don't know anybody that rides bikes let alone rides trials...
    Soo if U are ever in ashland give me a ring..
    My phone number is (541)482-7623
    Thanx for the reply...
    Eric
     
  7. jimmybikes

    jimmybikes New Member

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    Jeremy just got back yesterday, from a 9 day trip to Mexico, he left again today, he will be going to europe and then some demos in Washington, he will be back sometime after the 20th of April. He is very busy, and seldom home, but feel free to call anytime, if he is home I am sure he will ride with you our number is 541-846-9494.

    Anyone is welcome to call him anytime, but I must warn you he is not home very much. I think this is his ninth trip already this year.

    But he loves to ride with guys when ever he can and loves to talk to anyone about trials.

    Jim VanSchoonhoven
     
  8. smudge

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    Thanks for posting this, but you might want to check the links. Most of them don't work.
     
  9. jimmybikes

    jimmybikes New Member

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    Thanks for pointing that out, RATS, I have no idea what I did wrong, I will work on it again, when I have time, sorry!

    Jim VanSchoonhoven
     
  10. hydroboy

    hydroboy "Jak se mas"

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  12. AndyT

    AndyT New Member

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    hahah...i was waiting for stu to finally get here.


    ROUND 1, DING DING DING
     
  13. sturat

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    I actually don't read this forum, I was pointed this way by someone. . .

    STU
     
  14. AndyT

    AndyT New Member

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    well that totally debases my stated fact that you are on this forum now. Thanks for clearing that up.


    :ugh:
     
  15. sturat

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    Hey, I will thank you to keep your use of logic to a minimum please. ;-)
     
  16. jimmybikes

    jimmybikes New Member

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    Okay, I have tried this again, but I did not do as many articles, let me know if these links work. If possible if it does work can we get rid of the first bunch??? Can the moderator take them down and put this one up instead?

    I do want to make sure you guys know that this system of training works and it works well with athletes from many different types of sport, many of you may know I train my son Jeremy (currently the North American Champion), but most people do not know that I train many other athletes from many different sports, including pro mountain bike racers and over this winter I have done work with several of the fastest, Human power vehicle racers in the US. They are in the top 5 in their sport. Training through the winter has left them in the best shape they have ever been in…even better than during their peak last summer; we can hardly wait for their racing season. These guys hit incredible speeds and this type of racing hold all the speed records, such as going 81 miles an hour with out drafting and going 51 miles in just an hour on a track with no drafting.

    The point is I have trained athletes using many different techniques, and these are techniques that I have found to be the most effective and safest. I hope you can learn something from these general articles. Most important remember, you will become the best trials rider by focusing your time on good productive riding. In everything quality of the time spent is more important than reducing the quality and going longer.

    Training people is what I do and I love to do it!

    If, you want ballistic type training, and plyometrics, and like to spend more time in the gym, some one like Stu can help you with that kind of information. From the past I know that is what he believes is the best type of training.

    http://www.i-a-r-t.com/articles/athletesmannie.html
    http://www.i-a-r-t.com/articles/speedimprovement.html
    http://www.i-a-r-t.com/articles/mannie-nsca.html
    http://216.239.53.104/search?q=cach...raining+High+intensity&hl=en&ie=UTF-8
    http://www.cptips.com/hit.htm
    http://www.wsu.edu/athletics/strength/intbfatmetab.htm
    http://216.239.53.104/search?q=cach...raining+High+intensity&hl=en&ie=UTF-8
    http://www.jbst.com/factsheets/interval1.html
    http://www.houstontexans.com/photos/fitness_corner091902.pdf
    http://www.eliteathletetraining.com/Articles/Article_25.aspx
    http://www.eliteathletetraining.com/Articles/Article_28.aspx
    http://www.eliteathletetraining.com/Articles/Article_30.aspx
    http://www.eliteathletetraining.com/Articles/Article_22.aspx
    http://www.eliteathletetraining.com/Articles/Article_11.aspx
    http://www.eliteathletetraining.com/Articles/Article_8.aspx
    http://www.eliteathletetraining.com/Articles/Article_10.aspx
    http://www.i-a-r-t.com/articles/woundhealing.html
    http://www.i-a-r-t.com/articles/tendon.html
    http://healthfitness.com.au/articles/synergyfitness/maximum-exercise-capacity.html
    http://www.readysetgofitness.com/newsletter/29_AmericanHeartAssociation.html
    http://www.fitnesspastfifty.com/article1044.html
    http://www.ensureyoursuccess.net/excerisetruth.html
    http://www.spineguys.com/newsletter/02132003c.asp
    http://www.runnersworld.com/home/0,1300,1-51-55-236,00.html?site=RunnersWorld
    http://cr.yp.to/postpropter/intensity.txt
    http://www.napa.ufl.edu/2001news/couchpotato.htm
    http://www.hopkins-arthritis.som.jhmi.edu/news-archive/2003/exercise_ra.html
    http://www.mcg.edu/news/2002NewsRel/gutin.html

    Jim VanSchoonhoven
     
  17. Cryo-Cube

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    Dont get me wrong, Super slow, HIT n similar training methods are good but dont hype it up too much.
    After all you can only get as good as your genetic potential allows it.

    Take me for example. I could train my body with the best personal trainers, best food, recovery time, sleep, bla bla... still, i would never be as good as a average trained athlete with the right genes. I just dont have the potential

    Im not saying your wrong, just dont hype it up that much, your talking like HIT transforms everybody into Hulk overnight.
     
  18. Rob.K

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    Where excactly did he say you could turn to hulk over night. He did not say it was a miracle.

    I think your comprehension skills need a little work more than your fitness. Which I also doubt is any good either.
     
  19. jimmybikes

    jimmybikes New Member

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    You make a very good point. You are 100% right, it is your genes that determine how far you can go, but I have also found that 100% of the people I train, do better on HIT type training than on any other program they have ever done. In other words genes determine your upper limits, but if you don't train right you will never know what those upper limits are.

    The bottom line is to seem improvement you need to stress your body above it's limits, and then allow lots of rest so your body can rebuild the damaged area and the even build it stronger. Many programs do not stress your body enough and even more programs do not allow enough time to rebuild and grow stronger. This takes time, HIT and Superslow are based on doing both of these things.

    However there are other systems out there that do build strength well too! I have found most of those systems to be much more dangerous to the lifter and time consuming, and some of them promote the use of drugs to encourage recovery.

    Another problem I find with most programs, is their failure to allow enough time for practicing actual skills...NOTHING will improve MOST peoples more than actual practice. With many strength building and endurance building programs, by the time you are done doing every thing they want you to do, you would be too tired to ride! You might be in great shape, but is that your only goal?

    But like I also stated, if you know a better way of training, one that is working for you, stick with it, and if you want to know more about Stu's training methods talk to him about them.

    I am a firm believer in letting different ideas fight it out in competitions!

    If you noticed the title of this topic...how can I make a stronger statement??? I said these articles would not be for everyone!!! They are presented for those that are interested in a method of training that is proven to work for trails riders as well as many other sports.

    Jim VanSchoonhoven
     
  20. AndyT

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    i'm starting my HIIT training today...basic stuff...I'll post results over the next few months if I can keep with it (meaning my knees :rofl: )