Well, turns out my approach to learning pivots and balance before anything else paid off. I learned how to do pivoting drop offs off of ledges. Most degrees is like 45-90 degrees....didn't really try to do a 180, as I can't really 180 pivot on my nose, but I can SOLIDLY land regular ones. Highest ledge that I tried off was like waist high, so like 3 feet. Landed it my 1st try, but when I landed on my rear, I had too much weight back or pulled up on the front too much and couldn't get the front back down after landing....2nd try, landed it like in the videos - rear then lightly let down the front.... Secondly, I learned how to pedal kick!!! I can only do like 2 on a good try, but always atleast one solid one. I keep listing to the left or right, and occasionally back when landing, but I actually got them today. I can only PK up to something like curb height, MAYBE double curb if I tried. The farthest I PK'ed on flat ground was like 2 feet....but this was the 1st time I actually devoted some time to trying it. Took me about 2-5 minutes to get some timing down with the releasing the brake and kicking, but I figured it out! I have to do the ghey little 1 inch high front rock or endo before I get on the rear and pedal kick, but hopefully I can eventually phase that out :bigthumb: Pretty proud of myself! I've only been riding like 3-4 weeks, so learning balance REALLY pays off. :bigthumb: Now what do you guys recommend I do? Start practicing the PK's and endo drop offs(180+ degrees specifically) and really starting to ride trials or just keep practicing my balance and pivots like I have been and just do the pedal kicks at the end of a ride (like I did today) to slowly gain them? I'm not sure if I keep practicing my balancing and not the PKs if my learning curve will slow....LOL, I'm going for the most efficient learning curve possible. I need to make up for all those lost years of riding trails and freeride :rofl: What do you think of my progress? I can(not too familiar with terminology quite yet :greddy: ): Bunnyhop like 1.5-2 feet Bunny Hop to rear wheel stall Wheelie drop to rear Endo hop(about 3-4 hops) Endo hop to rear wheel Static hop(both wheels) about 6-9 inches foreward Pedal up(nothing high though, MAYBE like 6 inches) Bash on a ledge to both wheels SOMETIMES hop from bash to rear 90 degree pivots on front or rear in either direction, but smoother pivoting CCW on the rear, and CW on front Occasionaly up a 4-6inch ledge and land front first...feels funny, so I don't try it that much..... Pedal kick once (learned today) Endo drop off (learned today) Maybe that list is a little drawn out, but that's EVERYTHING I can do besides trackstand Decent for 3-4 weeks?