The blessing and curse of watching yourself

Discussion in 'Observed Trials Discussion' started by DaneBrammage, Sep 20, 2004.

  1. DaneBrammage

    DaneBrammage Guest

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    Well theres really no curse involved in watcing yourself, except maybe the distinct feeling that you werent looking anywhere near as cool as you thought you were. Having style is huge. Yesterday was actually the first time I consciously tried to understand rotating around on the rear wheel. I knew I could tug the bars as I went up and be looking at around 90 degrees of rotation, but I wanted to sort out a controlled hopping.. at least 360 degrees.

    Set up the video camera and it didnt take many attempts to get a couple of 360 rear hopping turns down. The problem is I dont look very good doing it! And I cant believe its womanish to want to look good.. I know I'm not going to master all the tricks and tools of trials so I might as well look cool doing what I do learn. So I suppose I cant admit I really know a skill until I look stylish doing it.

    I really suggest picking up a cheap video cam if you dont have one already. The one I got is just a ratty old Sony HandyCam.. it was only a $100-- but it works. They really can be almost like a coach, if you are honest with yourself about what you see.
    Since I ride alone it almost even represents a riding partner: you look at the vid of yourself and say 'that move looks sketchy I bet I could do better' or 'instead of doing that, why doest he try this.' Hell, even your riding wardrobe might change because of it! Get a cheap used video cam if you can find one.
     
  2. oicdn

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    I ride alone as well, and a video camera does help. On the two occasions I've used it, I've corrected what Iw as doing wrong. Shitty part is, I never have access to the camera much (GF always has it with her....greedy fucker)...
     

  3. durkie

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    ha

    perhaps there are other forces at work in your relationship here.
     
  4. valiumlaw

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    You'll never become very good at trials if you concentrate your mental focus and energy on trying to look cool and stylish.

    The only reason Hermance and the Coustelliers look the way they do is because they ride with a natural flow and harmonious relationship between their body and minds. Hence their outstanding trials ability. They ride pure, the only factors influencing their minds are the ones that matter. I cant list them exactly but they will unveil the key to becoming a trials master. Think relaxed, in time, momentum, mental focus.

    Much the same base line principles apply with kung fu and martial arts etc.

    It is clear to the knowledgable that the most talented martial artists look like flailing idiots when you observe them carrying out techiques, good kung fu looks ugly, non-stylish, cool/non-cool depending on the on-lookers opinion.

    The way you look when you ride shouldn't even be thought about for more than a second if you want to be the best you humanly can at bike trials.

    If anyone agrees, please make yourself heard.

    If you understood what i just said, you'll understand the importance of going to the zoo or an open wild-life sanctuary to observe the way animals act. NO hesitation, get it?

    Its all linked with what i just said.
     
  5. JasonMudd

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    I'll watch myself and see that moves will look forced (for lack of a better word). So it's a big sign for me to go back and instead of trying to make the bike move, I move with the bike - if that makes any sense :dunno:
     
  6. RT Wolf

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    Personally I hold the view that you're not in trials to look cool (to most people). You can stop and hop in one place for ten minutes, but how many people are gonna be impressed by that? Street is more about what looks cool, and that's prolly the difference between me and a friend of mine. He rides urban with a trialsy flair, and it looks kick ass cause he's smootha than butta. I, on the other hand, look like shit most of the time. Trials has it's own style though, it's own rythm, it's not about lookin cool, it's about getting over an obstacle or a bunch of obstacles. On the other hand, cool to a trials rider is often smooth and flowing. If you think you don't look relaxed or smooth, then you might need to tweak some things and see why it looks like that. And if it takes you several tries to do a move, then you're just learning it, or working on it, and when you stress yourself, it doesn't look as cool (to me).

    valium, I dunno about the whole, they ride with their grace (I can't think of a better word) cause they're focused on what matters. I think their grace has something to do with how long they've been riding, they know, or their subconcious/body knows, where to do what. It's kinda like a baby learning to walk, it'll look awkward and the baby'll fall over many times, but eventually it'll just look natural. The point is I dun think they consciously decided, that's how it should be or how I should be focusing on relaxed, momentum, mental focus, i think that smoothness comes from experience. But I understand where you're coming from, and the zen thing is something that I think can really help out a rider, or anyone.
     
  7. hydroboy

    hydroboy "Jak se mas"

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    Ocidin, what do you think she use the camera for?


    :naughty:
     
  8. Blackstick

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    Haha, thats what im talkin about.

    Vid cams do work well, ive watched myself and seen some really stupid shit that i do, then corrected it. So thats gotta be a good thing.

    I also think that the reason Cousts and Vincent ride with "style" is because smoothness and minimising body movement unless neccessary is the best and most economic way to ride sections.

    Rt Wolf and valiumlaw I think im saying the same thing as you guys here.
     
  9. DaneBrammage

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    Rt Wolf and valiumlaw's points are true enough, of course.

    But theres usually more than one way you can accomplish a given skill. I have my own analogy: in tennis the pro's all have different services, but they are all maxed out in terms of making use of power. Ok-- now in local parks you can see all kind of duffers and weekend hackers making all kinds of wasted and ridiculous movements prior to hitting a weak ass serve. Rt Wolf and valiumlaw's statements speak to the first class of 'action.' I was talking about eliminating, consciously, wasted moves from an action sequence. Looking at yourself seems to be a good way of getting a perspective on what you look like.
     
  10. klophaus

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    I'm with you. I looked at myself ride on video for the first time a couple weeks ago. Having watched a lot of vids on this site, I realized I need to change a lot. Biggest difference I saw was the amount of front wheel movement while on the rear wheel. Kevin's front wheel hardly moves when he's turning on the rear, my front is all over the place. I think it is a great help for people riding alone.
     
  11. pipehouse

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    I tried to do a gap two weeks ago, just couldn't make it. Then I asked a friend to film me. I compared the video to the pros. I tried to do about the same as they did, and finally i cleared the gap. I learned to throw my backwheel level with my body, now I gap much better.

    So a videocamera is a great invention, that we can all agree on ! :p
     
  12. valiumlaw

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    Good for porno.:Sonic:
     
  13. RT Wolf

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    po-r-no? Down the address bar we go, to meet the wonderful wizard of dictionary.com.


    :p