PC build

Discussion in 'The Gutter' started by free_rideman, Mar 17, 2008.

  1. free_rideman

    free_rideman Keepin it real

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    Building a PC for my brother. He will be a normal user, no real gaming or programs that require a fast machine. He wants something that is reliable so it could last for a while but still be good for upgrades as technology gets more demanding.

    I convinced him to run XP since there are bugs with Vista.

    All from newegg.com:

    http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813131196&Tpk=N82E16813131196

    http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16819115030&Tpk=N82E16819115030

    http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16811119077&Tpk=N82E16811119077

    http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814121094

    http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820231098&Tpk=N82E16820231098

    http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820231098&Tpk=N82E16820231098

    http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817189014&Tpk=N82E16817189014

    http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16827151153&Tpk=N82E16827151153

    Total $635.92

    I have gotten good computer advice on here before. I was wondering what people think of this system? My brother will order in about a week if everything checks out. I will do a final run through to make sure everything is compatible. This is my first time building a desktop up by myself.
     
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  2. OTAdmin

    OTAdmin Administrator Staff Member

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    It would be easier if the "title" of each item was a link to said item, but I'll just throw out some general stuff from what i see.

    If you're only getting a 160GB drive, look around and grab a single platter drive.

    I'd lean towards get a motherboard with an esata port built in, so if he wants to throw on an external hdd later he can use esata instead of something crappy like usb.

    I'd get a quad core 2.4ghz and 4GB of ram, but it doesn't sound like he'll really need it. Still, for about $120 more you could more than double your power and probably add a year to its usable life?
     

  3. chaloux

    chaloux Party all the time.

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    yeah, is fine. basically like you said: not a real nice build but will work fine. I don't really see anything that is out of place.

    hilarious what it takes to write word docs and surf the net these days.

    plus as far as i'm concerned the bug thing with vista is basically a moot point. but that's me, that's my bias, and i'm sticking to it. i have had less problems with vista 64 bit than any other operating system i can remember. but there are people who have a fuckload of problems and what can i do but shrug my shoulders and say, "shit taht sucks"
     
  4. OTAdmin

    OTAdmin Administrator Staff Member

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    It's not so much the "problems" as it is the fucktard design: the complete reorganization of the filesystem and introduction of "features" that help keep your PC secure.
     
  5. chaloux

    chaloux Party all the time.

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    word. i know what you mean, but it really didn't take that long to get used to for me. the migration was still easier for me then moving to a mac - which i haven't done, only played around with for a bit, but it drove me insane.

    the only thing i wish it did was backup stuff right. why can't it just copy/paste all my files to my external hard drive? seriously, fuck fucking compressing them, it's why i have a huge drive.

    DAMN IT
     
  6. chaloux

    chaloux Party all the time.

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  7. bushlawyer

    bushlawyer New Member

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    i run xp sp1 before they started doing all the authentication crap.....everytime i go to sp2 (I of course don't have an authentic copy), everything goes to shit.
     
  8. AgrAde

    AgrAde From your head to your fists

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    installing a less than legit version of XP sp2 is easy to do.

    considered a seagate hdd? more reliable and have a 5 year warranty. definitely get a mobo with esata. also, what brand of PSU is that? i've never heard of it.
     
  9. Rodmunch

    Rodmunch Trials Noob

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    Looks like a good build for the money to me. I have to look into esata...I'm so behind the times. =/
     
  10. free_rideman

    free_rideman Keepin it real

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    That was some good advice there Bill! I will try to look for a mobo that has an eSATA connection. One thing that my brother needs is wifi though. All his routers/modems are in the basement. One of the reasons I chose this mobo was for the integrated wifi and antenna. But I will check out what newegg has.

    I checked newegg and both WD and seagates sites to see about single platter. WD doesn't seem to disclose the info but seagate does in a pdf. For their 160Gb model (7200.10 series) they offer a 2MB cache and a 8MB Cache drive. The 2MB is a single disc while the 8MB is a two disc drive. Can somone explain this? Isn't a larger cache better?
     
  11. free_rideman

    free_rideman Keepin it real

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    I totally missed the fact that the ASUS mobo has an eSATA connection in back. Found another one, which one is better of the two?

    http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813131182

    http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813131196

    Some people say that the PCIe x16 slot is right in line with the SATA connections making it impossible to use all of them with certain graphics cards. I don't know if I should be too worried since I won't use all of them.

    Speaking of SATA, is it worth having a DVD CD combo drive run on SATA? Oh and why are their SATA power connectors??

    This is the best drive I could find on newegg:

    http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16822148230
     
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  12. tamu

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    No need for the CD drive to run on SATA, it is a newer thing.. From what I can tell, only reason would be cable management issues as it does not use that much bandwidth.

    props on the 80% PSU

    Also, the mobo in the first post has esata right?? If you cant find one with everything you want and wifi, you can get a wifi card for less than 20$

    If he is not going to game at all, does he need a graphics card? Especially if you get the newer gen integrated graphics, should not have any hang ups.

    Unless he already has a copy of windows XP, I would put windows vista on it. People will eventually make the change to it so..
     
  13. BrettB

    BrettB noob framebuilder

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    no they wont...M$ is releasing a new OS next year, and i would wager tehy will halt support for vista
    if there is to be no gaming, install Ubuntu...youll thank me later
     
  14. AgrAde

    AgrAde From your head to your fists

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    :ugh:
     
  15. Cryo-Cube

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    i dont have vista.
    What do you mean by that? You cant copy and past random files to a a external harddrive on vista?
     
  16. free_rideman

    free_rideman Keepin it real

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    http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...E16813127 030
    http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...E16819115 030
    http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...E16811119 077
    http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16814121094
    http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...E16820231 098
    http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16822148230
    http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...E16817189 014
    http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...E16827151 153
    http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16833105010&Tpk=N82E16833105010


    $779.90 (I didn't do maths right the first time forgot to add second set of RAM :hsugh: )

    After doing way too much reading I changed out the mobo for an abit without integrated wifi and added a wifi adapter card for $75. I trust ASUS but many customers had BIOS and reliability problems. Thanks tamu for the idea about the wifi card. Its not $20 but its supposed to be really good.

    Also decided on the Seagate HDD. Should be fun to setup. Can't wait for my brother to order the stuff.
     
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  17. Moment Designs

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    just get a macbook for $4500
     
  18. free_rideman

    free_rideman Keepin it real

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    :momaru:
     
  19. chaloux

    chaloux Party all the time.

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    yeah you can. I would just like to automate it, like defrag (you can schedule it now, I do it once a week). You can also schedule backup, but it does it like a piece of shit and puts files randomly in zips and then pastes... WHY won't it just copy/paste/done?

    I don't backup all the time and it'd be nice to just have it done with in windows. I could just get a backup program but I have no time to research and would rather just copy/paste.
     
  20. Devilish

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    Ignor Vista. It's not going to be about long

    XP SP2 5002 2006 is the last build out and the best. I'm under NDA with SP3 BETA running on my test machine and there are lots of faults. There trying to mix vista into xp which don't go.

    XP is an amazing os once set up.

    Cheap system

    E8400, 2GB DDR2 from OCZ, Asus mobo, P35 chipest will do nicely, GFX ATI 2900 are cheap now, PSU, OCZ or PC+P, jsut depends what ya doing.

    or ya can go like me spend 3k on ya cpu cooling only but runs @ -100c all the time!