hello, thought id post, even know most people probably already know about it ... i quite like the look of the frame and the booster! yes, it is a big fat copy what with the dropouts and so on, but i like it!! i really like the sound of the geometry and so on ... yes i know i like echo pures and teams and now this i must be gay, meh, i think they are good. here ya go ... http://www.echobike.com/index-1.htm ... if you scroll down there is also the new echo team. cyall.