OMG, this is the sexiest thing I have ever seen. Eric Baar aka Ground Up Designs was responsible for this work of art, and it is off to Spectrum Powdercoating for some sCHweet powdercoat. Needless to say I had fun with this, the geometry was my decision, along with all the features like horizontal drop outs, but the design was Eric's. He is on his way to becoming one of the best frame builders on the continent. The welds are unbelievable... CLICK HERE TO WATCH A VIDEO OF THIS FRAME--> http://www.eengoedidee.nl/videoz/bike-trials/grounduptrials.mov Geo... WB 1080 Chainstay Length 14.75" Headtube Angle 71.5 It looks like a beast, but it weighed in at just about 5, so a little less than a Levelboss, but more than XTP, Coustellier (I think). Complete my new bike should be around 23 or 24, compared to 26 right now, even with a 3.2 pound echo... Also, there will be a braze on for a friction shifter on the seat tube, but it's not on yet in the video. Let me know what you think.