as from what i said on bt.com......"oh ya, for any mod rider out there: these tyres are the absolute shiz! they fookin rock! best EVAR for natty and the like. the stick to everything out there, wet or dry. they also love wet, slimy rocks. for urban, they are great too, they have a little bit too much rolling resistance tho, so if your a bunnyhop kinda guy that needs tons of speed and all you do is urban, these may not be right for you. but, you can get an extra few inches on ups because of awesome grippage "