So in the tiva games there was a speed trials course, and the heats brought Jeff and Vincent head to head. They did two runs. Lenosky had front suspension, Hermance on his rigid. Jeff rode his bike very smart and used all the advantages front suspension could give him on that course- meaning he didnt use strictly trials based moves all the time. Also his gearing was higher and he could pedal the short open sections quicker/easier. Vincent used more pure trials moves (of course) and was basically quicker through all the sections except for the last one: a ladder going up about 10ft then a few foot gap down to a ramp. Vincent had to work his legs furiously approaching and onto the ladder, then backwheeled down onto the ramp. Jeffs gearing made his pedaling more natural and then he oozed over down onto the ramp, using his suspension, in a way that was faster than backwheeling. He beat out Vincent by a fraction of a second on both runs, though it all came down to Jeff dropping faster, mtb style, over that last obstacle.