Bill, you can move this, to the media section if you want, i meant it more as a tutorial type thing i guess, thats why i posted it here, but im not bothered. its pretty lame, because the wall isnt dead vertical, and the first of the two hooks is a bit messy but it might interest some people. might help people out, or people might be able to give me some pointers. no rear brake on the first step of the hook, only when i land on rear. video link here - http://canberratrials.com/vidslong/hooktorear.mpg Alex edit - does kinda sound like my back brake squeaks huh :? , i was sure it was off! the hooks would only work really well when i made myself lay off the rear brake.