[bonzai]

Wanted to get your opinion on these frames.

Which is a better buy? why?

Thanks.

 

[TrialsinKy]

I'm having the same problem with the same frames. At this point i'm gonna go with whatevers cheaper so I can get some other parts.

 

[bonzai]

I'm thinking the same thing!!

By the way can the urban be fitted with V's or maguras/hyd. rim brakes?

 

[OTAdmin]

Hard to say really, they're both made by the same company. I've ridden a few echos, but no zoo. The echos do feel really nice on the rear wheel, but they're kinda short :hs:. You can get the urban with either V or hs33 mounts. if you're planning on running an hs33, I would definitely get the 4bolt mounts. If you want to ride Vs, you should definitely go with the V mounts. Adapters are available either way (4 bolt -> V & V -> HS33), though the 4bolt -> V are harder to find.

Echo Urban: http://www.echobike.com/urbanframe.htm

Let us know if you have anymore questions

 

[bonzai]

thanks.

 

[Elan]

the echo urban is just an ES3, now if you were getting a pure, that would be a good echo. but for trials specific grometry, the zoo piranha that i have is 10X better than the any echo ive ever ridden, and a lot cheaper. i dont know what the boa geometry is.

 

[TrialsinKy]

I did wonder about the Urbans just because I know too many people who have broken Echo's but the zoo's are made by Echo so it could go either way strength wise.

 

[Elan]

unless your some kind of lumox you shouldnt really break a frame. TRA is riding echo right now, i wonder how many frames hes broken? possibly 0 because hes smooth enough. who knows.

 

[Pancho]

TRA isn't smooth.

He lacks style and butter, but goes big anyhow.




Anyhow, Echos are nice, Zoos are nice. echo=zoo. If you're happy with one, you'll be happy with the other.

 

[Fast Fashion]

get a woodman T-pro if you want a real frameand you're on a budget. It's the best riding bike out there besides the Koxx, and it's extremely close. I only got the Koxx because i knew i wouldn't break it. You are really cheating yourself by not getting a Woodman, Koxx, or Echo Pure.

 

[Lagerhead]

(only slightly off topic...)

What about the Woodman frame the has an actual seat tube that you can put a seat in. It seems similar. Has anyone seen one of these?

 

[Fast Fashion]

The woodman elite is the one you are thinking of. It looks more like a street oriented frame. Probably very nice, but the T-pro feels like a perfect comp bike.