I've read post by several people claiming that they're frames were replaced when they broke. This of course implies 2 thing. The warranty is ok and these frames break! I'd stay away from it if possible. But It will probably ride well enough before i breaks.
God thats a good price, lemme see though, are they 4 bolt mounts or canti? I really wanted canti because i wanted to keep my v brakes. Also the ESr4 is a 72.5 head tube while the Es3 which is older has a 74. What are the advantages of either? Robbie, would you trade anything for the frame also? Let me know, [email protected] or PM me.
I am riding an es3 currently (until my Coustellier comes in...). It hasn't failed me at all so far. I like the handling, real fast/quick. Good for urban with the extra welded plates on the downtube and stays gives you a little sense of security. It's real comfortable on the rear wheel with the short chainstays. And with canti mounts. The only reason i'm selling mine is because I'm 6'7" and wanted a longer bike. Oh, in case you care, i'm selling mine for $200, but willing to haggle for the price. Let me know if you are interested.
Yea, i was set on getting an Es3 really cheap or that Es4r, but i saw some dude crack his es3 right near the headtube. it was some british guy so maybe he rode it too hard, but that picture really scares me, right now im kinda unsure of echos. Many people have claimed they break easily so it was somewhat of a turn off. I'm only 130 lbs and still kinda beggining, but i just dont want to screw myself up. But i will think about it.
id say you will be best off on robbie's es4r, i had an alp and they are ok to learn on but you will soon out grow it, do yourself a favor and buy robbie's, you wont be limited by the bikes capabilities and come on for $175 why not?!