So Kevin (i don't think anybody did this change besides you) So was it worth the extra 650? Is the bit of extra length really providing the benefit? Also are you running the HS33 or the Vs with an adapter?
i tried running an adaptor and the woodman things wont work. they sit the vee stud to the side of the lower frame bolt- they need to be under it... like down the cseatstay closer to the hub. there is no way in hell the adaptors would work for me unless i were running a narrow rim like a 521. so im running a maggie but not by choice and im not too pleased about that. the main reason i snagged a koxx is because i need to start getting used to the long uci style geometry if i am going to be following through with some plans here soon. im going to be getting some frames from desalvo to replace the one that failed at worlds which will basically be like steel koxx's with some minor geometry tweaks of my own. the problem is that i wont get the first of these for about a few weeks. i should have thought to buy a koxx sooner but i didnt and i kind of regret it right now. i like the ride of steel but right now the geometry of the koxx takes priority. the extra length is crazy good. my wedges have improved and after a short getting used to period- i can manipulate this bike a lot easier than my prototype desalvo for uci pure trials type stuff. im not sure if desalvo is planning on releasing the new design as a stock set up (by that i mean you may have to pay custom rates for it- not sure though) but i will be building it up as soon as it gets in my hands. i will be sure to post about how the small geometry changes affect the ride- if at all. hope that helps!
So the woodman adapters don't work because the brake bosses are set to close to the rim? So I guess there goes my dream of getting a used koxx and running it with those adapters. What do you mean failed? Did poorly? or just cracked on you?
the downtube was a foco tube. crazy thin... crazy shapped for steel. it was meant for road bikes and superlight xc frames. it crimped near the head tube where the internal butting goes from thin to thick. as for the adaptors, you are correct they sit too close to the rim to run a vee... super smart- i think they just figured everyone ran xc rims for trials or something. anyways, i will be making my own that wont suck some time in the future, if they work i will be making a bunch to sell to people like me that hate magguras and see no sense in ever putting 4 bolt mounts on a frame. when i get a finished adaptor i will post about it. o yeah and they wont be stupidly overpriced.
http://www.trials-forum.co.uk/index.php?showtopic=17147 these were posted today on trials-forum. they look ok, esp cause theyre farther out than the woodman ones.
LOL, that's mine! They work amazingly well on my ol ilions.. Thinking of getting a few pairs made, but I'm going for a small redesign. Need enough interest too, 'cos it would be pointless having 10 odd pairs sitting on my desk.
