in reference to this thread https://www.observedtrials.net/vb/showthread.php?t=7152 Solved my derailluer hanger bending problem. I took out the derailleur. It rides like a mod now. thought thered be too much slack in the chain or it'd be too tight, ended up chain tension is just right and I cant make it skip or change gears. My sidehops have improved tenfold since I dont have to worry about that stupid ass derailleur anymore. This would have been impossible without fun bolts, thank you chris king.