best stock frame?

THERE IS NO BEST!!! Especially these days, the type of riding YOU do will really determine which frame is the BEST FOR YOU. Tell us what type of riding you do...

i think that every body would be happy if it was mandated by law that they had to ride a koxx.

I am a law abiding citizen.

i'd like that law if they were given to people with not enough money (like a trials benefit)

heh, i think my bike is the most opposite you could get from a koxx without taking suspension into account. fucking low bb, long chainstays, long seattube, short front end, flexy as hell... i mean who wants 16 1/2" stays and a wheelbase of 1030 :greddy:

best uci trials bike: pure, LB
best urban trials: leeson, zebdie
best biu style bike: monty urban, ashton
best steel bike: del selvo
best bang for the buck bike: boa
best not a trials bike: santa cruz blur
best of the best: NOTHING!!!

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So is there a best multi-purpose trials bike?

no.

with trials being deversified and with each little niche becoming more specific in terms of demands from a frame, there is absolutely no way you will ever get a frame that satisfies all of a rider's needs. the more spread out a frame's applications become, the worse at each one it is. you have to ask if you want a jack of all trades and master of none or if you want to settle down into one or two types of riding and get something that you will be happy with.

Well of course there is going to be trade offs, what do you think of the New Jack Flash or maybe even the Norco Moment as multi-purpose bikes?

It depends on what you define as multi purpose. Road? Freeride? Natural? Street? Downhill? Touring? Tandem?

Well, other than trials, as a road/freeride/street bike.

so in short you want a bike with drop bars, 1/2" tyres, 700cc wheels, a five inch travel fork, a big cushy seat, cables long enough to do barspins, brakes that pull up on a dime, 53/12 gearing and lots of standover?

- Joel

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but if i was going to get a new frame, it would probably be zoo boa, or woodman.

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I'm going to go ahead and guess here... IF you think you will do :

51% trials or more....get a zebdi

49% "street" "freeride" (don't even say road) or more, look into the moment or jf, or maybe some other frames...there are lots of good "street" ish frames. The best being a BMX frame ( ), but forget trials on that.