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tryallmaster · 02-18-2012, 08:41 AM

Had a quick hour to film a few clips riding the NEW TNN Blacks pad. The new compound is currently being tested by several riders.
First impressions of the Blacks are very positive. Certainly a contender to become the next 'pad'.
The pad has not been released yet.. It is still under this final stages of testing.
I am also riding the prototype forks with disc mount. Front wheel moves have never been easier..

Cheers, Lewis.

Vimeo

toyota200x · 02-18-2012, 09:13 AM

It is great to have a company continually making quality products. As always, amazing riding.

mikeyr89 · 02-18-2012, 09:41 AM

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Originally Posted by toyota200x

It is great to have a company continually making quality products. As always, amazing riding.

That pretty much sums it up.

REDOVAL · 02-18-2012, 10:12 AM

Ive been riding these for the past month and think they should definitely release them for production.

Scott

trellex · 02-18-2012, 01:55 PM

Are the better than the LGMs? I ask better, I mean pure stopping power, no modulation. How are they in the wet? I didn't hear any bite in the video when you were riding in the water, so just curious as to how they felt?

After riding with the LGMs, I will strongly endorse TNN. Quality product with amazing results.

If these pads are better than the LGMs, I wanna know!!

Hooha · 02-18-2012, 04:37 PM

Nice riding Lewis, and if I didn't ride dual disk I am sure I would be after some TNN pads...

Le@TNN Engineering · 02-18-2012, 07:58 PM

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Originally Posted by trellex

Are the better than the LGMs? I ask better, I mean pure stopping power, no modulation. How are they in the wet? I didn't hear any bite in the video when you were riding in the water, so just curious as to how they felt?

After riding with the LGMs, I will strongly endorse TNN. Quality product with amazing results.

If these pads are better than the LGMs, I wanna know!!

No noise in the wet due to used grind. Fresh grind+water=noise most of the time. In the vid Lewis slightly over shot the landing and no slip so wet performance looks promising.

Here's what my riders and myself have to say about the blacks. Modulation,Bite and Hold better than the Belaey's and very close to the beastly LGM. Performance consistency is excellent and wear is better than Belaey's.

Here's the compounds in a nut shell.

-LGM street,big moves,Harsh grind,No modulation,Big locking power,wet.
Smooth rim Modulation and holding power. No wet.

-Belaey's street and natural,med grind,modulation,locking power,wet,muddy,dusty. Very consistent compound.

-Blacks I'd say the blacks are Belaey's on steroids. Will be cheaper too.

Some more info on the LGM's

LGM's are like the F1 of brake pads an absolute monster once they are bedded in. But like anything which works at such a high level anything can affect the performance. Worn grind,dirt,any form of oil,the waxy residue on the tubes whilst changing tires/tubes. These will all noticeably decrease performance.

So the idea with the Blacks is to develop a compound that can perform at 95% of LGM and be consistent day in day out until the pads worn out. "set and forgot" as we'd say.

Hope I answered your question.

rupintart · 02-19-2012, 01:41 PM

So Blacks are the low maintenance riders' choice?

Interesting.

afrobot · 02-19-2012, 04:48 PM

If anyone says anything bad about "The Blacks" it's ground for a ban. And for the newbs, I'm as white as a can of off whitish paint

**rush** · 02-19-2012, 10:16 PM

Around blacks, never relax!

Edit: Obviously i'm joking and quoting from a poster from many years ago.

MaxTorq · 03-27-2012, 11:34 PM

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Originally Posted by Le@TNN Engineering

LGM's are like the F1 of brake pads an absolute monster once they are bedded in. But like anything which works at such a high level anything can affect the performance. Worn grind,dirt,any form of oil,the waxy residue on the tubes whilst changing tires/tubes. These will all noticeably decrease performance.

So the idea with the Blacks is to develop a compound that can perform at 95% of LGM and be consistent day in day out until the pads worn out. "set and forgot" as we'd say.

Hope I answered your question.

Does this mean that the Blacks' braking performance are less affected by contamination?

Le@TNN Engineering · 03-28-2012, 12:07 AM

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Originally Posted by MaxTorq

Does this mean that the Blacks' braking performance are less affected by contamination?

Correct! I regularly remove my wheels of my bike with Blacks and Belaeys. Tire contacting the pads the whole time during removal of wheel and I notice no drop in performance.

RobbieP · 03-28-2012, 12:18 AM

I want some blacks.

I've been using LGMs for years but recently they have stopped working like they used to. Even with a fresh grind the pads don't get that bite sound. Thoughts?

sk8dad · 03-28-2012, 12:43 AM

What does the pad profile look like? Just a thought. Mine decreased power after about 8 months and several grinds. Then by off chance I looked at them and noticed that they've rounded off a bit. There was a slight crown in the forward to backwards profile. I then sanded the pads flat, and back to 100%.

Le@TNN Engineering · 03-28-2012, 01:04 AM

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Originally Posted by RobbieP

I want some blacks.

I've been using LGMs for years but recently they have stopped working like they used to. Even with a fresh grind the pads don't get that bite sound. Thoughts?

If you sand your pads back and rebed them in and there not 100% there is a high chance you've got some kinda of deep contamination in the pad itself. Game over new refills needed.

Ramrod · 03-28-2012, 02:41 AM

Once you go black, you will never go back

stocktrials · 03-28-2012, 06:29 AM

I've found the LGM more prone to decrease in performance from contamination.
Even that, with the Be-Greens, I think I got some tyre muck on them. Fresh grind, cleaned with metho and the blue part back to working, green not so much...

chiao · 03-28-2012, 12:41 PM

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Originally Posted by RobbieP

I want some blacks.

I've been using LGMs for years but recently they have stopped working like they used to. Even with a fresh grind the pads don't get that bite sound. Thoughts?

I have the exact same problem. Sanding the pads down didn't help either and I have to use tar to get any bite. We probably have some sort of deep contamination like Le said. Or is it possible that the compound itself is deteriorating?

livio · 03-28-2012, 12:52 PM

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Originally Posted by RobbieP

I want some blacks.

I've been using LGMs for years but recently they have stopped working like they used to. Even with a fresh grind the pads don't get that bite sound. Thoughts?

Mabey TNN changed their green formula and hasnt mentioned it yet?

Le@TNN Engineering · 03-28-2012, 03:00 PM

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Originally Posted by livio

Mabey TNN changed their green formula and hasnt mentioned it yet?

There hasn't been any change to our LG (green) compound. It's still our top top selling pad.

RobbieP · 03-28-2012, 06:03 PM

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Originally Posted by Le@TNN Engineering

If you sand your pads back and rebed them in and there not 100% there is a high chance you've got some kinda of deep contamination in the pad itself. Game over new refills needed.

HHmmmm this sounds like it might be it.

My pads hit flat and brakes are setup well. They should be so good with a fresh grind but only work about 50% as before.