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Old 06-25-2017, 07:23 PM   #1
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Me new bike....

So....it was finally time. I was going back and forth with just upgrading my frame, but I just bit the bullet. Felix at HB Trials hooked me up. For a few years I had this Formula brake laying around and said "my next bike is gonna have a carbon disc fork up front...". The forks finally came out and the timing with money was right so here it is.

Crewkerz Jealousy L geo
Echo tapered carbon disc fork
Formula The One with 200 mm rotor

Haven't ridden it much more than in the front of the shop because the brakes haven't bed in and it's been raining....but it feels pretty rad.

Yes, smooth rim in the back...

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Looks awesome , now sell me your capriola , please and thanks


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I've got a buddy out here that is a shop guy (and I think got the HB hookup too) and has one and I have to say the whole thing is dialed (his bikes always are, but this seems that way out of the box). I was skeptical of all their own parts that might be trick to get replacements, but it sure feels good.
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So nice!

You can also do a Monty VS WAW tire battle!

Enjoy Nate!
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I've got a buddy out here that is a shop guy (and I think got the HB hookup too) and has one and I have to say the whole thing is dialed (his bikes always are, but this seems that way out of the box). I was skeptical of all their own parts that might be trick to get replacements, but it sure feels good.

It does feel pretty good out of the box. While it definitely feels significantly higher quality and more dialed out of the box than every other trials bike I've owned, after putting together Moots, Seven, and other high end road and MTBs all day, it feels cheap and not very high end. Perspective.

I need to get used to the gearing though, after riding 16/14 for years, 18/16 feels sooooooo off.


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So nice!

You can also do a Monty VS WAW tire battle!

Enjoy Nate!
In the limited exposure I've had with the WAW tires, they definitely made me double check my tire for being flat/ low on pressure as it's significantly less supple (bouncy, feels like it needs more pressure to not pinch) than a Monty. But I'll have more feedback tomorrow when it gets its first proper ride.
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So nice to see other disc riders. I've been wanting that fork but back and forth with the thought of breaking it. Can you compare the stiffness to another fork? Coming from a koxx my Rockman is flexy and trialtech Light was unrideable for me.
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I had the Try-All carbon fork. It feels comparable, a little stiffer, but not "Holy shit that's a lot stiffer..." but I haven't hooked (I can't hook consistently anyways) so I can't comment as far as that goes. My brake isn't bed in enough...
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Got in SOLID ride today. That crank/bb interface makes a HUGE difference. I never noticed the amount of flex before with the ISIS and Trialtech SL cranks but going back to back and doing gaps there is a HUGE difference in power transfer with the BB30 cranks.

The front brake is bedding in and I did a bunch of gaps to front and the 1.5 headtube did make a bit of difference. Not as dramatic as the BB/cranks, but noticeable.

I LOVE these Vee tires. I never thought I would like a tire more than the Monty (I'm 170-175) but running a higher pressure makes this tire so nice because it's stiff on the rear and off camber edges, but forgiving on landings. Kind of like what a Trial Queen was supposed to be.

Looking forward to more riding on it....
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I LOVE these Vee tires. I never thought I would like a tire more than the Monty (I'm 170-175) but running a higher pressure makes this tire so nice because it's stiff on the rear and off camber edges, but forgiving on landings. Kind of like what a Trial Queen was supposed to be.
Really?!? your previous comment made me think they were in the realm of the Jitsie tires (that I'm currently on) and I'm not super happy- low enough pressure to get some good bounce and grip and the rear tire folds almost off the rim and the front gets pinch flats, enough pressure to keep from folding and pinching and the tires are dead and grip sucks. I'm also right there between 170 and 175lbs.
maybe time for vee tires the blue letters would match my brake hoses haha
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disc fork stiffer than the hs try all i can deal with that, thanks. I don't do hooks but notice disc flex all the time in other bridging moves and wedging but love the smooth no noise. tms make a nice tapered one but my rockman is standard. keep hearing people rave about the as 30, maybe my next frame.
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The WAW are not the same as the Jitsie, not at all!

The one good point of the front Jitsie is that it's the lightest.
Else, the WAW wins on every point! Sidewalls are thicker, compound is softer!
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It should be noted that I run a higher pressure than most, which is also probably why I like them. On the first proper ride I did I upped the pressure and instantly fell in love with them. I ride ALMOST strictly urban so I don't need the gooey-soft grippy feeling of low pressure...as a result I've gotten used to it (I run ~30 psi)...I need higher pressure for flat protection landing on a corner more than anything else. These tires still bounce when running higher pressure, but they don't flat at the sight of a 90* edge like the Trial Queen did. It does behave on rocks too, even at my higher pressure...I just don't ride them enough to care about setting them up ideally for natty. They gripped pretty damn awesome yesterday though...

As for the cranks...yeah, they're solid. the crank arm feels heavy as shit though...even though as a whole drivetrain it's not. The stiffness is definitely noticeable, but I'm also unsure if it's also due to the frame design with that double seat tube design and the rear triangles in general just being beefy as shit. I was expecting a slightly nicer finish, but then again, I have to remember I'm dealing with trials parts, not discerning roadie parts that I've been dealing with lately.


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