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Kind of looking at a bike for doing the continental divide. Seems the 990 fits the bill pretty well. BMW seems to be not favorable in off road (70/30), where the 990 seems to be more 50/50. The baja version is pretty tits. Or I could spend half as much and go ultra light on a XR650R. I hate these decisions.
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It would be hard to beat riding an XR650. The Honda is the bike of choice in the Baja. Not a lot of KTM's but they are growing in popularity. Rocky Mountain folks love the KTM. A 525 or injected 530 would be a great choice for mountain pass and single track trails. The 990 will be a weight pig on techy stuff but an awesome bike to eat up gravel roads and slab. There is no perfect bike of course.
KTM = Kost Too Much.
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And ktm dominates baja.....
You bet your ass they do. Just because they dont place first on podium like your belved honda team doesnt mean they didnt finish with podium standings. Again you missed my point. Hard enduros amd racing are what ktm does. The technology they smash into their 50cc kids bikes are staggering.
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Well KTM doesn't really dominate Baja. Dakar, FFFKK yea. Are they the best adventure racing bike, most likely but dang they have weird little issues, like crap fuel pumps, funky counter sprocket connections, exposed pipe right by the foot on the 525's. Parts are in competition with BMW in ubber expensive and very hard to obtain. Would I own an orange bike, heck yea. However I want a world travel off road bike and someday I will get a 2007 BMW X Challenge and make major mods.
Everywhere I went in Baja last week were Honda's, then Yamaha and DRZ 400's. The five riders on the trip, 4 were on KTM's.
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03-01-2013, 12:46 PM
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Any suggestions to a more vintage bike with similar riding goals? 70s or so... Assume it would be cheaper, more to work on, harder to ride...
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03-01-2013, 12:49 PM
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Originally Posted by ateam
It would be hard to beat riding an XR650. The Honda is the bike of choice in the Baja. Not a lot of KTM's but they are growing in popularity. Rocky Mountain folks love the KTM. A 525 or injected 530 would be a great choice for mountain pass and single track trails. The 990 will be a weight pig on techy stuff but an awesome bike to eat up gravel roads and slab. There is no perfect bike of course.
KTM = Kost Too Much.
Well KTM doesn't really dominate Baja. Dakar, FFFKK yea. Are they the best adventure racing bike, most likely but dang they have weird little issues, like crap fuel pumps, funky counter sprocket connections, exposed pipe right by the foot on the 525's. Parts are in competition with BMW in ubber expensive and very hard to obtain. Would I own an orange bike, heck yea. However I want a world travel off road bike and someday I will get a 2007 BMW X Challenge and make major mods.
Everywhere I went in Baja last week were Honda's, then Yamaha and DRZ 400's. The five riders on the trip, 4 were on KTM's.
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I just wish the xr650 was button start. I have right knee issues.
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03-01-2013, 02:41 PM
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Old Man, Poser, Newbie, "Huba Huba"
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The Honda XR 650 has not changed in like 14 years. Same clutch cable, seat, tank, forks, etc. Honda makes a XR650 R and a XR650 L. R is a bit more HP, a bit better suspension and requires a kick start. The L was made to be street legal, passes California air emissions, all lights, horn, blinkers and has a magic button. Yes an electric start XR650 and they are common. Now compare their weight with a KTM, arg. But so damn dependable, really an awesome bike and the XR series is rated top 50 bikes of all time by many, including AMA. I have an XR250 woods bike and it is a tall blaster. The most famous lady in Baja, the Lizard lady who lives in Telluride and has mapped all over Baja making GPS guidebooks rides a bored XR250. Light, dependable, long range tank, bullet proof.
Lots of folks trading in the old school Honda awesomeness for KTM's. Should be easy to find one in SOCAL. And for you Andy, the XR650L would be the ultimate urban escape vehicle. You could be in Baja in a few hours. Crossing the border is easy as well since they have bike lanes.
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03-02-2013, 12:12 AM
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Plus it will fit in the back of my car.
Looked up that honda, seems very fancy...
Looking for more this style:
http://www.adventuresportrider.com/forum/showthread.php?t=7964
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03-02-2013, 07:33 AM
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I just wish the xr650 was button start. I have right knee issues.
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Look for a 1988 NX650....beast of a wheelie bike...and electric start.
I got pulled over on the shop demo all the time.
Steve
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03-02-2013, 12:25 PM
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Originally Posted by eastcoaststeve
Look for a 1988 NX650....beast of a wheelie bike...and electric start.
I got pulled over on the shop demo all the time.
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If you find one for a good price, BUY IT! They are very sought after right now.
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03-02-2013, 12:29 PM
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Originally Posted by AndyT
Any suggestions to a more vintage bike with similar riding goals? 70s or so... Assume it would be cheaper, more to work on, harder to ride...
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Yamaha XT500.
OR Honda XR/XL 600.
XL is stock road legal.
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03-02-2013, 12:33 PM
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Yamaha looks great...
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03-02-2013, 12:52 PM
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Originally Posted by hophopsnap
Kind of looking at a bike for doing the continental divide. Seems the 990 fits the bill pretty well. BMW seems to be not favorable in off road (70/30), where the 990 seems to be more 50/50. The baja version is pretty tits. Or I could spend half as much and go ultra light on a XR650R. I hate these decisions.
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Just be honest with the riding you will be doing and you will be happy with whatever you choose.
For fire-road type stuff the BMW is right up there with the KTM. When it gets more technical they are both BIG bikes with a ton of power.....
XR650R's get very old if you have to go fast in a straight line and flat.
All these bikes are about compromise, you just have to pick the one that fits you the best and go from there.
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03-02-2013, 01:00 PM
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Yamaha looks great...
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The best part is they made them for about 15 years, so you can find them in any kind of condition you would like.... Pick your price and go from there.
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03-02-2013, 01:09 PM
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Boner
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If that is a boner, what is this????
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03-02-2013, 02:54 PM
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Grew up in New Mexico riding moto since I was 9, moved back to the east coast after high school, I have had two different dirt bikes here on the east coast and got rid of both of them out of anger and not being able to get them out of third gear due to dense woods and lack of any open spaces. Street bikes are a different thred. I have almost two acres of wooded hilly back yard and I bought a ding dong china pit bike last fall and made a small track In my back yard, Can't get the smile off my face now. Started off as a 125, pulled the motor and put in a 160 cc bored to 184cc with 4 valve head and 30 mm carb. It's absolutely the most retarded little thing I have ever thrown my leg over.
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03-02-2013, 04:26 PM
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03-02-2013, 04:37 PM
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yeah, im in a gang.
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not shiny enough
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03-02-2013, 04:47 PM
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yeah, im in a gang.
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http://ultimatemotorcycling.com/1973_bmw_r75_5_motorcycle_review/
my dad has one of those, might actually be an R65/5, stored away at his brothers house. i would love to fix it up but the damned thing weighs five times as much as i do!
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2%4 D*"#uD A*e , P*kr*4)(k, LA , h-~20
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03-02-2013, 05:13 PM
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Look for an old Xr 650 = win
http://inlandempire.craigslist.org/mcy/3620842365.html
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03-02-2013, 05:27 PM
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Originally Posted by eastcoaststeve
Look for a 1988 NX650....beast of a wheelie bike...and electric start.
I got pulled over on the shop demo all the time.
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I meant the liquid cooled xr650r. Why no estart? I never understood it.
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03-02-2013, 05:29 PM
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Originally Posted by Mud
If that is a boner, what is this????
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Orgasm
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03-03-2013, 02:02 AM
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GMFB
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I meant the liquid cooled xr650r. Why no estart? I never understood it.
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I always assumed they are basically meant for racing, no need for electric.
It's tough, in Alaska you have hours of paved road to get to the small amount of off road. So do you hate life on the ride there or hate life off road? The riding season is may-sept. Maybe I'll just get an XR650r for riding to work half the year and still be able to toss it on a truck and go ride somewhere. Exploring the backcountry does sound fun, but maybe better done on a bicycle up here. Death isn't that far into the woods when you roll solo.
Legalizing the R for the road is another concern, as it was never meant to be DOT approved from the factory. I've read if you go to the boonies DMV, they'll plate anything (quads, snow machines, dog sleds). Plating an "enduro" style dirt bike seems to be the best course right now. I'd love to tour Canada on a true adventure bike though. Big country requires big bike, I'd assume.
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03-03-2013, 12:33 PM
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250 would get tiring if you are in a hurry. 250's get buzzy after a while. You could always give it a shot and get rid of it after you get bored.
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03-03-2013, 10:00 PM
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Old Man, Poser, Newbie, "Huba Huba"
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People that own this will never sell them. Alaska bike, desert crusier, coast to coast; and classic.
1973 BMW R75/5 | Motorcycle Review
The XR650L is a totally legit XR. Slab is weary but the XR will eat up slab.
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03-04-2013, 01:38 AM
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GMFB
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Anyone see that Canadian movie where the character rides a vintage Norton (maybe triumph?) across Canada? Pretty awesome idea. He bangs some hippy chick in the woods.
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