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View Poll Results: HS33 or Vee's?
Magures hs33 or echo hydro 136 57.38%
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Old 01-26-2010, 04:26 PM   #1
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Hydro or Vee's?

Im tired of screwin around with my echo hyro rear brakes, how are vee's? Wat vee setup should i look for?



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You should buy HS33's instead of the Echos.



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Ya ive heard echos suck more then magura, maybe i will, not sure. But i already have the echos

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On second thought... because you weight like 80 lbs and don't have a job maybe vee's would be a better choice...

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I would try vee brakes in a heartbeat if it weren't for the $30 adapters. If you decide on using vees, don't forget the slick honey.

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On second thought... because you weight like 80 lbs and don't have a job maybe vee's would be a better choice...
actually i weigh 110, and im gettin a job this summer cause im getting my permit this may or june, cause i gotta pay for my truck insurance
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I would try vee brakes in a heartbeat if it weren't for the $30 adapters. If you decide on using vees, don't forget the slick honey.
ok, do you know like what brand to look for? A good brand with good pads? if i got vees i'd probly get TNN pads
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My TNN's for maggies work great...

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+1 for vee's.

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on my mod i'm running maggies with alu-backing Rock blues, Echo SL booster with a light grind that needs to be reground - works quite well

stock i'll be running heatsink adapters with avid ultimate calipers... not too sure what cables/house, maybe Odyssey or XTR or Avid Flak jacket, alu-backed 44trials pads and a salsa CF booster with a medium grind - pretty excited to have this set up.

maybe bleed your brakes with water and it that still makes them suck, then get maggies

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K, thanks Alex, My friend in our trials club is a Magura dealer, so hes gonna get me a sirenge so i can bleed my brakes, but with mineral oil, i tried once and couldnt figure it out, but i had the bike shop do it and they didnt do it right, the bleed didnt last long

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magges FTW. never had an issue with then while riding that wasnt my fault.

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Well why not just use magura blood? Pretty sure it's identical to mineral oil, a 10 weight mineral oil. You live somewhere warm, just do the bleed it yourself using water. Although I'm not 100% sure which version of Dengura you're using, but sometimes the seals don't work with water... Try it

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I can't comment on Maggies since I don't own a set or used one for extended periods, but I've had no confidence issues with Vees as a beginner rider at ~175lbs.

I run,

  • Cheap Deore arms
  • SD7 levers
  • Some random (but quality) cable I had lying around
  • Heatsink red pads with CNC backings
  • Echo booster
  • Sharp grind
  • Some unbranded CNC adapters
Benefits,
  • Easy to maintain
  • Adjustable lever reach
  • Adjustable actuation tension
  • Good bite
  • Solid hold
  • Cheap! Pads were the most expensive bit, more expensive than an angle grinder...
  • Doesn't leak
Disadvantages,
  • Chunky looking with the adapters, arm and booster
  • On longer rides (2hrs+) forearm pump/fatigue might be noticeable, but so will your Popeye arms after a month or two
Setup is key with pad and grind being the most important aspects.
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For the front, I recommend the Magura Louise disk (2008/2009)

For the rear, I recommend the Magura HS33, with ROCK, or TNN pads for the ultimate braking!

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If you gotta go out and buy a set-up, you might as well get Maggies. Check out brycer1968's thread in the FS forum. The guy's legit and has some smokin deals. You can get a full set for under $100. Add in pads: 20-40 bucks and it shouldn't come to more than caliper, adapter, lever, housing, cable, and pads for a Vee set-up. Just my $.02, though.

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maguras are fantastic.

if you are running vees some avid black opps,heatsink adaptors,xtr levers odyssey linear slick cables with the tnn lgm v pads.

either work well,its the feel at the lever and the bite to hold ratio.its just preference.

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K thanks a bunch guys! I guess if i cant get my Echos bled again, I'll have to buy some HS33's

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I hate the sluggish response of maggies nearly enough to warrant trading them for a V brake system, but I guess I should focus more on learning how to use my bike as is.

Get the maggies so you can experience what everyone else is using, then decide to trade up later

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I run super cheapo MTX V-brakes (or whatever), Odessey slick cable, and Problem Solver travel agents. Great reliability from lever pull to lever pull as well as having a VERY snappy lever return- which is so nice.

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I would run whatever the frame is made for. No adapters and shit. So HS 33



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