basic trials moves

[snakebite]

I can trackstand now. The question is, what do I need to learn next. What are some of the first things I need to learn that will help me in the long run?

[Gargamel]

Bunnyhop, back hop and pivot.

[Ross]

I would say that you should learn pivoting next. Try practicing by pivoting up and down curbs. Then try to do 360s by pivoting. See how many pivots it takes you to get a 360. After that I would say learn how to hop in place, then learn to pedal kick. From my personal experience, if you know how to pedal kick, learning to hop on the back wheel will be MUCH easier.

[Gargamel]

you learned to pedalkick without being able to back hop ?

I followed "Dirty tricks and cuning stunt" to learn and they suggest learning back hop before trying to pedal kick, i also checked various web sites, they all say "back hop" first.

Anyway, after learning track stand i would suggest learning endo, pivoting and lifting the front wheel using pedal power.

[AgrAde]

IMO, this is probably the order i'd recommend learning things in. i kinda forget because all basic stuff seems so easy i can't remember what was hard and what was easy, so someone that's been around more beginners than me should correct me or something.

i put backhop down the list quite far because in my first comp in sport, my ass was kicked by people who couldn't backhop at all, and practicing afterwards made me realise that backhopping and pedalkicking had played with my other techniques and i had to relearn quite a few techniques because i was relying too much on my rear wheel and drivetrain to get me places.

trackstand
pivot
roll onto things, off things
pivot onto things
hop forward
pivot off things
'wheelswitching stuff' to both wheels
basic surges
backhop
sidehop
pedal kick
...

[Bryan]

Add bunnyhop. Bunnyhopping with good form makes a lot of other techniques easier, it teaches you how to jump on the bike without any of the extra worries like pedals or braking. Plus you won't get in the situation where you can lurch and pedal up without being able to do a simple bunnyhop.

[snakebite]

what are surges? and wheel switching? I am sorry if these are dumb questions. I am having trouble rolling onto stuff over 2ft, any advice?

[Bryan]

IMO, this is probably the order i'd recommend learning things in. i kinda forget because all basic stuff seems so easy i can't remember what was hard and what was easy, so someone that's been around more beginners than me should correct me or something.

i put backhop down the list quite far because in my first comp in sport, my ass was kicked by people who couldn't backhop at all, and practicing afterwards made me realise that backhopping and pedalkicking had played with my other techniques and i had to relearn quite a few techniques because i was relying too much on my rear wheel and drivetrain to get me places.

trackstand
pivot
roll onto things, off things
pivot onto things
hop forward
pivot off things
'wheelswitching stuff' to both wheels
basic surges
backhop
sidehop
pedal kick
... I'd say learn to pedal kick before you learn to surge. Surging is just a more difficult form of pedal kicking imho.


Snakebite- A surge is where you rest on two wheels balanced, either rocking or trackstanding, then move way back over the rear axle and suddenly pedal kick with a big movement of your hips towards the bars.

A wheelswitch is when you rest your front wheel on top of the object, then let off the front brake, bend way down over the bars so your face almost touches the front tire, then explode up and place the rear wheel where the front wheel was previously.

Rolling onto stuff 2 feet tall is very good. At this point try to bring other methods to that height- pedal up, pedal kick, surge, wheelswitch, bunnyhop, etc.

[snakebite]

thanks for the advice guys, i will practice this stuff this winter

[ty]

trackstand
pivot
roll onto things, off things
pivot onto things
hop forward
pivot off things
'wheelswitching stuff' to both wheels
basic surges
backhop
sidehop
pedal kick
...
if you plan to compete this is the order, these (with the exception of sidehop and pedal kick) are the skills you need to compete in the sport class. i too got my ass handed to me in my first comp as i had not worked on any of these skills at all. imo the hardest to learn is hoping forward....not really sure how to explain it just use your arms and legs to "throw" the bike forward

[ty]

you really dont need to be able to bunny hop or pedal kick until later in the sport class or if you are trying to move to expert, i would suggest not learning those until you have the basics down

[Elan]

i know how to pedal kick, but it doesnt help me in comps.

[beastoftheeast]

how can pedal kick not help u in comps? i thought that it was the most useful move in trials... and its the move i can't quite get grrrrr. im close though. also does someone know where i can see some people competing in the sport class i would like to compete next summer hopefully a lil. just want to see how far i away i am...

[AgrAde]

the guy that won sport class last year and completely pwned me and everyone else couldn't pedalkick well enough to even attempt using it in a comp

[AgrAde]

not really sure how to explain it just use your arms and legs to "throw" the bike forward

i think of it being more "jump straight up and while you're in the air pick the bike up and put it where you want before your weight comes back down"

but if i said that to a beginner he'd be like "wtf mate?"

[rush]

I use backhops and pedal kicks maybe 15 times in a comp. I do it as little as possible because, for me, its where I fuck up the most.

[Boo_Berry]

hmmm, i learned bunny first, then pivoting and trackstanding for a warmup exercise, then pedalup, then pedalkick... it may be easier to learn pedalkicking when you have your front wheel up on something and kicking from there... or just watching more and more videos. the dirty tricks and cunning stunts with hans rey and martyn aston and some other guy lol, its a really helpful video!

good luck!

[norco tt]

peddle kicks

[AgrAde]

peddle kicks
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