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oicdn
11-01-2004, 06:48 PM
How'd you learn to manual? Trials has helped a TON by letting my know the balance point when on the rear, even though static is a different feeling, you still get the general mechanics down. :ugh:
So, is it easier to learn going like 3/4 your full speed or what? I can on a good day get about the length of a parking space. I know depending on speed, that can be about the same as just lifting up your wheel for a second, but I get up there, and get about 2-3 seconds (one thousand one, one thousand two...) of hangtime before it comes back down. I don't feather the brakes, it's just from straight balance....
What's the easiest way to learn to manual? I despise the pedaling ones...I wanna learn the coasting ones...anybody?
If you can wheelie then start a wheelie and get you chocolate foot forward.
Find your balance point and control it by bending your knees. It's easier when your going fast but not close to full speed. This is how I learned, but I am also not the greatest at this move. If you cannot ride a wheelie then learn how to do that first.
manual while pedaling = riding a wheelie:)
Dr Game
11-01-2004, 08:08 PM
manualing isn't too hard, u could learn to do it for a great distance within a month. Just remeber to pump your legs when your nose gets low, and use your breaks when u get too high
pull up, bend knees to keep balance.. i am getting pretty ok at manually my koxxor.
oicdn
11-02-2004, 05:49 PM
Yeah, I use the brake to prevent me from looping...but otherwise, I am using my knees. A month huh? Damn...maybe I'll just practice those till ig et burnt out...manuals and bunny hops to manuals are like the sickest thing since King hubs....
Dr Game
11-02-2004, 06:43 PM
it's possible for anyone to learn to do it pretty well in only a month, trust me, i've seen so many people do it
oicdn
11-02-2004, 07:30 PM
Heh, so far my record is 2.5 parking spaces wide (or, about 2-3seconds of the front off the ground, to give you an idea of how fast/slow I'm going) as of 5 minutes ago...pretty shitty. I found speed is a pretty decent factor in keeping the front up.
CRAK_BOT
11-02-2004, 07:46 PM
Hello,
These are some things that helped me.
Once you get the bike in the manual position however you like, keep your body in the same spot over the bike and use your legs to push or pull the bike beneath you more or less. For example, if the front is falling, extend your legs a little to push the bike out. If your looping out, bend your legs and pull the bike in.
Also, this is the hard part. Don't stare at the front wheel while manualing. Look out a few feet, or better yet where you want to manual to. This was the hardest part for me but probably helped the most.
Good luck,
Jim
Dr Game
11-03-2004, 11:52 AM
ooo... don't star at the front wheel? I gotta try that one
Ryden
11-05-2004, 06:16 PM
If you want to do long ass manuals, don't use your brakes, or at least only as a last resort. So instead of being over your bike on the balance point and using the breaks all the time, move you ass back, drop the front end, and you will get the same balance point effect without having to use brakes. Then just pump and you're set. It will be just pull up, coast, drop down like you said for a while, but then you'll be out one night and end up just getting balanced and manual 3 or 4 times your planned dostance. Once you master this, you're set.
beastoftheeast
11-09-2004, 11:26 AM
manualing is the devil i tell you. a month? i wish hahahahaha
dahouse
11-09-2004, 01:31 PM
Yeah, I was gonna say, a month is a short bloody time!
The manual is the hardest move I've ever attempted to learn. Since last august, I've been practicing at least 20 minutes a day and I can't get it.
oicdn
11-09-2004, 07:35 PM
I don't use brakes when I manual...IO only use the brake if I'm looping out and my legs are already straight....it's getting better as the days go on...now 1 parking space width is pretty standard. and instead of just letting the front down, I thought I'de learn to bunny hop while in a manual.
I can do like a 10 foot manual to bunny hop up a curb, and manual again for like another 5 feet going at say a fast walking pace....I'm a chicken shit when it comes to learning things going fast....maybe that's why I REALLY SUCK at street...
AgrAde
11-09-2004, 09:17 PM
i raised my bar 1.5cm and now i can manual 32904720x more controlled.
BrettM
11-09-2004, 09:35 PM
Its all in your legs dude. Completely loosen up the upper body. Even turning is in the legs. If you are losing a manual because you fall to one side put more weight on the opposite side of the bikes pedal. Same deal to turn. Want to go right? Push down on the right pedal.
I learnt it really fast. I went from a parking space to however many until I ran out of speed with no brake use in a couple weeks. Keep leaving the brake alone. Not only is it bad for learning properly its terrible on style points. I learnt how to go "forever" as well with my bad foot forward in a month and a bit. I got some other goofy manual stuff I can do, one should pop up on the net soon enough...
A longer bike makes things a bit harder. So do shorter chainstays, but mostly the long bike. Long bikes and short chainstays are the complete opposite of what you want for great manuals in my opinion. Not in that you should have a short bike and long chainstays but just a shorter bike. Short stays are rad for manuals, but its a gong show with a long bike.
oicdn
11-14-2004, 05:22 AM
Yeah...I giuve mad props to people I see doing manuals ona trials bike. That's fuckin nuts....I can't even pull up to the BP on my trials rig....
I've been learning them without brakes...my standard is now about 1 car length to about the width of two vs a couple days ago just the width of one. I've figured speed actually helps a bit with the gyroscopics of the front wheel helping you keep your balance...manuals are still I think the backbone of a good street rider. You can link anything to a manual...
AgrAde
11-14-2004, 01:15 PM
Yeah...I giuve mad props to people I see doing manuals ona trials bike. That's fuckin nuts....I can't even pull up to the BP on my trials rig....
i had to work on my 'pulling up' technique for about 2 days before being able to get there. i was the same as you but just practiced and now i just can :dunno:
justin
11-14-2004, 07:51 PM
Yeah, I was gonna say, a month is a short bloody time!
The manual is the hardest move I've ever attempted to learn. Since last august, I've been practicing at least 20 minutes a day and I can't get it.
I learnt how to manual in one day.I practised 5 hours straight and got it to 160'
Well youre fucking fantastic arent you!?
I love you, and want to have your children.
oicdn
11-17-2004, 09:08 AM
^^^bwahhahahaa...it's like manuals are a genetic thing...some people can do it, others can't even go 5 feet...me, being one of the genetic tards, LOL.
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