King SS and a dish....

[oicdn]

Alright, I'm about to order my King SS hub. When I noticed the flanges are equal, for a completely dishless wheel. My Megamo has an offset dish. Will I need different length spokes? I know for my Classic, I could use the same length spokes as a non-dished rim. This shouldn't really affect the integrity of the King shell will it? Considering the hub was built for a dishless wheel....or should I just get spokes with an ERD of like 1-2 mm longer????

[felix]

According to Spocalc you can use the same length of spokes on the drive side as well as the non drive side.
With a CK single speed hub 32h, 3x laced on a Mavic D521 the spoke lenth would be 259,1mm for the left side and 259,7mm for the right.

[xxxfr]

yea, dishless wheels are rediculously strong because the spokes are ont he same angles (when a normal cassette hub, the drive stide spokes are near vertical)

as far as spoke length, im not sure, but felix sounds right, just remember to round down, making them both 259mm....

[B1105]

haha spokes don't have ERDs, rims do though

sorry

[tzimon]

I believe the question was regarding whether he will have to change the length of the spokes to get a proper dish on the 'dishless' King SS hub since his frame is built around an offset dished wheel spacing but.. I could be wrong. :dunno:

[xxxfr]

yes, he is going to have to get new spokes for 1 side atleast

[bwagner]

I believe the question was regarding whether he will have to change the length of the spokes to get a proper dish on the 'dishless' King SS hub since his frame is built around an offset dished wheel spacing but.. I could be wrong. :dunno: Yep, thats what I'm thinking, I built up a Megamo Equipe pro for about ten minutes and I didn't like it very much, but the rear end is offset, so a BIG DEEP dish is needed to get the rear wheel to be centered in the frame. So I'm thinking that he's wondering if this will have an adverse effect on the hub, since it's designed to be built dishless, with equal size spoke flanges and spacing. I'm thinking that the hub can take it, but that it'll be hard to figure out which size spokes to run, since spoke programs are for bikes with evenly spaced rear ends. Good luck on this one buddy, but with some trial and error, you'll get it right

[oicdn]

^^^EXACTLY. The spoke calculators are for evenly dished bikes. And the hub has equal sized flanges. On the King Classic, the way the rim is dished, I didn't need new spokes because of the hub flange sizes worked in my favor(luckily, if I remember correctly). With the SS, the flanges are identical, and with a dish all faggy like the Megamo, I dunno if I will need longer spokes, or if the hub can even handle a faggy dish since it was designed for ZERO dish, hence the equal flanges....

this really sucks.....

[hydroboy]

or if the hub can even handle a faggy dish since it was designed for ZERO dish

this really sucks.....
:rofl:

Dish puts a rim in the center of the stays. A ck single speed hub requires no dish. If you put dish on it the rim will not be in the center of the stays. What the fuck is the point of a SS hub if you put dish on it anyway? Just so you can run a bad chainline? The only advantage of the SS hubs is they build a dishless wheel. Id just go with the clasic or ISO so you dont have to worry about your chainline. Who destroys trials rims anyway?

[oicdn]

Yeah...I really only weanted it so I wouldn't have to bother with that SS kit...that, and my King cog never came, so I figured I'de just knock them out at the same time, and just go with the SS King...til I noticed the hub flanges are equal, and the dish on my bike is offset....didn't know if that was a good idea...

[B1105]

Just get a classic, their most adjustable in chainline. Plus, dishing a wheel isnt that bad, maybe 10-15 min extra.