tire pressure,

[EchoPure89]

Just recently, i bought and rode a rear tryall tire, maxxis and michelin.
Michelin wildgripper, dh comp, 24.1 soft, 2.5 rear
Maxxis Mobster, st40 and 2.5 rear
Tryall Stiky 2.5 rear

First for Tryall, after riding it for 4 days, this is what ive come up with.
1. semi-stable
2. not-great pinch resistant
3. SUPER grip, better than michelin (10 of 10 stars)
4. more bounce than michy and less than maxxis.
5. for being on 47mm wide tryall rim, it flopped too much.
6. very comfy ride, comuting
7. bad rolling resistance
8. cant take a beating due to thin side walls, aka big angled touch hops, it crumbles.
10psi for natty and 12psi for urban

Maxxis Mobster dual ply st40 2.5
1. fairly unstable
2. great bounce, most bouce of all ive tried
3. decent flop, less flop than tryall
4. pretty good pinch resistance
5. decent grip, (7 of 10 stars)
6. good rolling resistance
7. can take a decent beating, still crumbles under lots of force.
8psi for natty and 9-10psi for urban

Michelin wildgripper dh comp 24.1 soft 26x2.5
1. incredible stability! (12 of 10 stars)
2. unbelievable pinch resistance. (10 of 10 stars)
3. very low flop, aka hop and gap from 45 degree angled rock.
4. very low amount of bounce (preference, very good or bad, for me its good)
5. can take a vigerous beating from a grizley bear (michy beats it back)
6. ok, rolling resistance, (5 of 10 stars)
7. great grip, (9 of 10 stars)
8. stupidly tight bead, i keep popin my tube :wtc:
6psi for natty and 8 for urban,

Overall i think Maxxis and Michelin are the best, depending on preference. None of these tires are bad though. I find that doing rear wheel moves in natural is confidence inspiring and safe with the Michelin. The Michelin is my favorite. The Tryall is fun at low psi, cause it forces you to land correctly. The Maxxis felt quite similar to Tryall only better, more beef. I feel that the Michelin would be the best competion tire. I have ridden expert comps with: panaracer megablaster, tioga, el gato, michelin etc. When Im in a comp, i usually get very tired and lazy and therefore are not smooth. Which usually means pinches and aggro drops. Since the Michelin can take the most beating, I feel that it would be good for comps with crazy drops, gaps and a lot of slants (aka fontana, keyesville). The good/bad thing about the Michelin is that you cant feel the rim or how much its squishing as easily as tryall and maxxis, so you might get a suprise bam on the rim (thats where the beating level comes in handy).

Thats my serious review, i tried all three tire on the same objects several times all in one day. Since i tried all of them in the same day right after each other i feel that my review is good instead of reviewing from memory.

UCI Ty

[Tanner]

:ugh2: but thanks for the indepth review...

[EchoPure89]

I tried to write the pro's/con's unbiastly as possible.

and ya, i wrote that, and hey tanner, its me Ty Smith, the one you hate.

[oicdn]

Michelin wildgripper dh comp 24.1 soft 26x2.5

8. stupidly tight bead, i keep popin my tube :wtc:
Try putting on a damn Intense tire...that was a pain in the ass. The sidewalls don't want to even flex, let alone the bead moving. But, I don't care if you put that thing on a roadie rim, it wouldn't roll off :lol

Inflate your tube some when you're puttin on the 2nd side of the tire...it'll keep your levers from pinching them.....but, uh, you prolly already knew that.....

Better review than most.....most people just say "this tire suck, I like this one better because....

[Tanner]

hey tanner, its me Ty Smith, the one you hate.
Don't worry, I know who you are. :Wavey:

[EchoPure89]

thanks for the tip, i thought it would pinch more with more air, so i let more out when puttin on 2nd side. i dont have to tube even in there on the 1st side. and do you have any tips on how to get it off? air or no air?

[bigd]

are you talking about installation or removal of a tube?

install-

inflate to a slightly flacid shape, barely holding its shape.

put first bead onto the rim, keep the bead as close to the center of the rim at all times. (its concave there, meaning more room to pull the bead on the other side of the wheel)

place second bead onto the rim. again, keep it as close to the center of the rim as possible. if the last bit is a bitch, let ALL of the air out. try again.

if its still a bitch, use a tire lever but push the lever into the gap, don't lever it. pushing slides the tool and bead over the rim, levering rolls it across the rim, catching the tube in the process. don't do that.


removal-

deflate completely.

push first bead to center of rim. remove that bead at one spot, using a tire lever if necessary.

repeat with second bead.


using a very thin rimstrip also helps a bit. ie: rox ultralight rimstrips. they're as thin as paper and weigh almost nothing.

[bigd]

also, when you're removing or installing a tire, you might have to keep tension on the bead you're working with to keep it in the center of the rim, if you let it fall loose the opposite side from the spot you're working with could migrate back toward the side of the rim where its a larger diameter, and make the bead feel much tighter..



rims notorious for being assholes:

sun rhynolite
alex dx32
tioga dh
matrix anything (old xc and road)
and any other rim with a flattish upper cross section. (the easy-to-change rims have a big dip in the center for the bead to fit into)

[B1105]

yes,pushing the bead to the center of the rim is a must, it will make anything easier

to add to the list

old schwinn and raleigh steel rims, i have to work on a shitload of those at work, but im sure no one here uses them, those are the ones that blow up in your face and leave you deaf

[Elan]

6 psi on natty? OK

[oicdn]

With the tube inflated, it keeps the tube from just laying on the rim or tire, so the levers can't pinch it if it's inflated, unless you're a total douche and have it so lightly inflated that the lever grabs the tube, then you deserve a pinch......

[EchoPure89]

6 psi on natty? OK
If youve ever ridden with that michelin, you'd be able to see how i run 6psi for natty and light urban. I try to run the same feel, as in, how easy it goes to the rim. it just happens to be the number six. oh well.