EARLY version of this next season

[WhiteRavenKS]

Ok everybody-

After trying not to step on too many other toes of MSC and Gnorba events going on this is pretty much what we have to work with:

Mid-late March- Lakewood (maybe, have to arrange permission to hold a comp there but i'm only going to do that if there are enough people that want to ride there) the other option is moab- i know its a long drive but if it were a two or three day riding session... it would be sweet- your thoughts?
April 17/18- Boulder Canyon (not sure of the exact spot but seth will be coming through about this time so i would like to have an event while he's here)
May 15- Gunnison- rage int he sage, this event is definately going on. Greg has been doing an amazing job with this event- it HAS to be part of a series we are doing in CO.
May29-31- Colorado Springs- big ballerz coming through around this time. event/camps/pant crapping sessions will be going on down there!
June 26/27- Georgetown maybe- some mtn folk location around there. i want one event up in the mtns around here. elan and i will find something great to ride... i mean come on... the mountains are made of natural!
July 3/4- probably not the best time to have an event with lots of people likely busy with family stuff on but i was thinking have one somewhere at this time. any thoughts?
July 17/18- Ft collins- there needs to be an event in ft fun. if horstooth is still exposed it may be there. if not there then the poudre canyon will work great too.
Aug 21/22- Vedavoo. yes we will have to venture out of colorado for this one but it will be good!
Sept 11/12 Another ft collins/boulder event- either in boulder canyon at a different spot or which ever spot in ft collins we didnt use earlier in the season.

There may also be salida in there but im not sure- i havent heard anything about whether or not the banana belt is going on this year.

there will also be the durango gnorba event again...

keep in mind this is a very preliminary schedule and it can be changed. we are going to have a lot more flexibilty this season with when we can have events. also dont expect to get reamed like some people did at msc events last season- they dont want to deal with us and we dont want to deal with them- that's over. please post your thoughts on this version of the schedule- i didnt take into account school finals while laying this out so if half our riders will miss because of finals- i will move something around.

[Elan]

the mountains ARE made of natural, i will do some scouting in my general area, if all else fails, i have my aunt's horse ranch, which is huge, and on the side of a fucking mountain.

[AndyT]

I have no problems setting up the fort collins sections. Up at horsetoothe there are a few areas that are not going to be enveloped by the evil water- the water ridge, the green ridge and the suicide cliffs...the green ridge would be best as I don't want to see anyone die.

I can also set up sections at numerous spots up at the poudre, but this would take longer.


I can set up the veedawoo sections as well...

[Elan]

yes, i have a bad feeling about these andrewT comps..hehe..

omg, that will be sweet.

[WhiteRavenKS]

help with sections will definately be appreciated-

i was thinking that if the rage in the sage has the trials down at this rafting park that we should plan on having abother one there at another point in the season at hartman rocks (because that place reigns burrito supreme).

any thoughts on the possibility of a moab trip? if we all pitched in on a couple of hotel rooms and went out for like 3 days riding, 2 night stay... might be cool beans!

[Elan]

yea, moab trip would be sweet... hopefully no trialsers will try the sexxors on me..i must bring a tent to pitch....


anywho, i think that is a good idea... i ahve never been to teh actual moab, been really close for a dirtbike race once, soudns fun...

[AndyT]

I'd be down for that moad trip kevin...as long as I dont have to drive lol. I still don't know what I am doing this summer too...

[ty]

that schedule looks good to me, i will be out of the country around the Gunnison one, which kinda sucks, spring break is mid march some time. In general saturday comps are hard for me to attend as i am a salesman and saturdays are the busiest days, but i could do a couple here and there. i would be down for helping set sections too.

[crescentrider]

ill help you with those sections andrew, must make everyone 5 them

[Sethbomb]

Sweet, thanks Kevin,
Yes I will be there at that time for sure. And if I hook up with Jeremy in Oregon (pretty sure I will) I'm gonna try to talk him into a trip to Colorado this summer.
And for those of you thinking about the Moab trip, what about the weekend after April 17th and 18th? Usually May is too hot anyway.
Just a thought, let me know because Teresa and I are going to Moab after Boulder anyway......Word SETH.

[Patrick]

Sounds like we're going to have alot of cool comps for me to get whipped at. The CO Springs crap session sounds interesting Kevin.. Will this be a National comp? Andrew, are you graduating in May? ..thinking about heading back to the east coast?

[AndyT]

Patrick- I'll be here for another year (hopefully thats it lol)...and don't worry I will never go back east.

[Pancho]

First off, you forgot the NATS event on August 14th. It will be held in Manitou Springs. This is looking to be a pretty big deal, I've gotten quite a few e-mails about this event already, possibly the largest event of the year, next to the Nationals I'm also doing down here memorial day weekend.

The National here in the Springs is looking to be INCREDIBLE. Everything is working out great, and I'll be able to give everyone more detail probably by the end of the week.

If you have any specific questions about either of these two events, feel free to e-mail me or call me.

Pancho

[WhiteRavenKS]

i didnt forget it... its not part of our series- its nats :bigthumb:

well so far i think this should be pretty darm close to what the real schedule will turn out to be. i think im getting the hell out of highschool in mid-may. after that i will have a lot more time to devote to the series. thsi year i want to get pro sections to push people like matt and josh and robbie... the top guys shouldnt be cleaning crap. expert and sport and beg will be relatively close in difficulty as pervious years.

seth- im probably up for moab the weekend after april 17/18.. have to wait and see when it gets closer though.

as for comps being on sat or sunday- i figured some people would rather see them on saturday and others would like to see them on sunday so if we kind of switch them up a little through the season that should help make some people happy.

[Pancho]

AHHHH, I get it, this isn't a comprehensive list of all Colorado comps, just the Colorado series...

So how exactly will the Norba Nationals down here that I'm working on tie into the Colorado Series? I think we it'd be awesome if you found a way to tie all the events together into something series like. But that's up to you, it sounds hard...

Oh, and the Moab trip sounds great, count me in.

[WhiteRavenKS]

i think we should leave the nats event on its own- if we are going to have a "series" then every event in it needs to be run under the same rules- which wouldnt be the case if we took in the nats one too. it will still be a really great event and all that jazz but it just wont go into the colorado points series. gunnison is all about the rules and types of sections we are looking for so they will be in for sure. i had also considered incorperating the norba at durango into the series and i think thats more reasonable since it will be under the same set of rules. there will not be trials at the snowmass national so we wont have to worry about that.

if anyone hears anything about the banana belt, please post or shoot me an email. i have been unable to find anything out about it this season.

[ascentrek]

Kevin, If Moab doesn't work out, I can help you with Lakewood. There's always Golden (I could scout something) Let me know.

Taylor

[ascentrek]

Oh, BTW, I would like to compete this year in the beginner class. I would love to have a coach. If anyone wants to mentor me or be a Jedi master, let me know, I'm up for learning. I buy my coaches beer, and drive them to the events, and don't charge them gas. Oh, I'm also a good bike mechanic and have an entire shop with professional tools... I'll wrench as well. :bigthumb:

[AndyT]

I have no problems coaching people, but without you being in fort collins I can't give you daily advice (which is needed). Don't worry about any of that driving stuff or gas or beer.

[Pancho]

I agree completely, I never really thought the Nats event would fit well with the rest of the Colorado events in terms of a series, I just didn't realize this post was only about the Colorado Series.

I'm so excited to see this season come together, complete with UCI rules and without Mtn States Cup. It will be somewhat of a loss (events like Keystone) but regardless, this season is gonna be good.

Thank you Kevin

[Pancho]

Oh, and Taylor, you'll be in the sport class by your second comp, if not your first. I'm willing to set up some stuff with you, just PM me to set up a day, but like Andrew said, without being able to give you day to day stuff, you'll be on your own most of the time.

[Matt]

I don't have any input, but I just wanted to say thanks to Andrew, Kevin, Pancho, Andy from Salida, and everyone else that will work to get these together for all of the work they have done in the past and will do this year. If I can ever be of assistance, let me know.

Matt

[WhiteRavenKS]

I agree completely, I never really thought the Nats event would fit well with the rest of the Colorado events in terms of a series, I just didn't realize this post was only about the Colorado Series.

I'm so excited to see this season come together, complete with UCI rules and without Mtn States Cup. It will be somewhat of a loss (events like Keystone) but regardless, this season is gonna be good.

Thank you Kevin

Pancho- we will miss out on some good venues and lots of exposure that come with the MSc but we will also not have to put up with any of their BS. I hate to name names but people in the know are well aware of who i'm talking about and what went down at times.

We will be missing out at some places but with the freedom to choose where we want to go, we will come across much better ones i think.

Im thinking that in order to be "in the points series" you should do three events... seems ok i think. random travelers will still get to be a part of the comps but for an overall series award- 3 events is a must.

im also thinking i will bring my mobile shop with me to every event. too many people go hours away and forget something simple like an allen wrench set... im guilty of it too. with this no one will have to worry about brining crap like bb tools and a truing stand and such- it will be there for you.

im still trying to talk some companies into giving us stuff for prizes. money wont be there, i can pretty much assure you all of that... but i would like to see some prizes for non-pro riders so i will keep pluggin away at that.

i would also like to see post/pre-comp clinics for riders- all riders. beginners can always use tips on how to ride a comp and even expert riders can learn from the pro's. if i can help pro's with euro super secrets i would be glad to do that as well (i can rarely do the stuff the euros can but i can at least explain it as best as they explain it to me).

thanks for the good words matt- they play a big part in making this worth while! speaking of thanking people- i want to thank greg for doing the rage in the sage- had it not been for that event i may have never competed and would have given up trials long ago. thanks greg!

[Pancho]

OY Kevin... I agree with everything you're saying, and although I'm going to be focusing most of my energy into the two Colorado Springs comps, I'd love to help out as much as possible, just let me know.

Were better off without those good folks at Mtn States Cup *COUGHericandthaneCOUGH* anyway...

On the money issue, I've had good luck so far hitting up non bike related sponsors for cash. Granted my events are both going to have huge audiences, which helps a LOT, It can't hurt to give it a try for the other events. I personally think it's retarded that certain pros wont come to events if their isn't a certain amount of money, but I also understand they are broke and simply supporting the sport isn't reason enough to come to comps.

I'm also really looking foreward to the Gunnison event this year, Greg does an awesome job. This season is going to be great once again, Colorado and the players here are going put on a sweet season.

I have a number for Andrew in Salida, so I'll call him tomorrow. I'm just hopping he's not in the hospital again or anything... also, his event is usually BIU, but I'm sure you could convince him to do otherwise.

[ascentrek]

Pancho, thanks. I have clients in COS, so I'll give you a heads up before I head down there. (I will be down there on the 13th). I'll bring bike and we can hang out. I appreciate the help... I really need it.

Andrew, I'd drive up that way for some coaching. I've got clients in Ft. Collins as well. There's nothing wrong with seeing them and then staying around for a while longer.

Kevin, you're still the original dojo master. Lets hook up on lunches when it looks nice.

I'll take a few firsts in Beginner class before I renew my membership with horba.

[Matt]

Andrew is a good teacher. For my first two years or so he was primarily THE person I learned from. I would be a lot better if I had actually followed more of the training advice he gave me. It would definitely be worth your time to make some trips up there, he has lots of great ideas for beginners.

[Elan]

they are hard to follw when you ride with him though, because he will try to show you, and then your like, "i can never do that, fuck this", then i just go and play on some little rocks..haha

[AndyT]

Elan, with you I am more like "stop being a pussy" ... If you want real training advice I'll give it to you.

[ascentrek]

they are hard to follw when you ride with him though, because he will try to show you, and then your like, "i can never do that, fuck this", then i just go and play on some little rocks..haha

Yeah, pretty much. I end up molesting little curbs and sticks.

[Elan]

haha. andrew... yea, i suck on natural a lot, sorry..i have been looking at every little section of rocks around here that i can, so hwen the sun comes out and warms up the weather, i will be out everyday after school riding rocks... i give you my word.

[ascentrek]

Kevin,
Are these comps going to be judged? Is there an entry fee or stuff like that? Or are these just a locals version of competitions?

[AndyT]

I'm sure they will be judged.


HOpefully there will be SOME entry fee, as well as a points series- that would make people want to come and it would heighten the professinalibilitydomenessitude of them.

[WhiteRavenKS]

the sections will be judged under uci/norba rules. there will be an entry fee for the comps but i'm not sure what it will be yet- as long as it's enough to cover series points trophies and my gas money, beyond that it will pay out to pro winners (if there are product prizes for exp/sprt/beg podiums).

i dont know if i mentioned this already but: there will be an overall points series which you will be eligable for if you make it to three events. series awards will be some thing similar to what pancho did i think for his event. nothing big and fancy mc-bling-a-witz but something nice to remember the season by.

[redworm]

hey ascentrek what time you coming to colo spgs the snow is thick in some places but theres always some urban

[redworm]

oh yeah all the comps sound good, moab would be really fun

[WhiteRavenKS]

April 17/18- Boulder Canyon
May 15- Gunnison- rage in the sage
May29-31- Colorado Springs
June 26/27- Georgetown/mtn folk location
July 3/4- trials bbq get-together. anyone want a comp this weekend? who's in town?
July 17/18- Ft collins
Aug 21/22- Vedavoo WY
Sept 11/12- Ft Collins OR Boulder Canyon

thats 8 events plus the durango Gnorba Gnational. plus maybe salida and i heard something about another nathrop event (these are both not solid info though so dont quote me on this yet).

any objections? any final thoughts? this is looking like the final schedule at this point...

[Elan]

oh yea, as for teh bbq 4th thing, there will be an awesome show in georgetown, i will personally be stting off 6" mortar bombs, hells yea!! aha... but have fun otehr wise

[el feo]

you forgot to mention that we found some possibley excellent locations for a gtown comp. some of you cool dudes should come up and give us idiots an opinion.

[Elan]

word, there are literally an infinite amount of perfect spots around here in teh mountains, whoda thunk it?

[ty]

are comps gonna be held on both days or just one of the two? i can make almost all the sunday rides as i work on saturdays, damn retail hours.

as it stands right now ill be here july 3/4 and would love to ride on the 4th. sounds like an awesome season and i cant wait!

[AndyT]

looks sick as a nut lick, im stoked breah bills!

[WhiteRavenKS]

the events will be on one of the days listed. i just put both to let you knwo what weekend it would be on. they will likely be sundays but i would like to split it up a bit because i know lots of people can do one but not the other- try to spread the love.

june 26/27- georgetown/mtn folk location. it's on there.

[redworm]

Isn't July 17/18 also eureka spgs. just something to think about if any pros like kevin, andrew, and the dean team are leaving for that event.

[redworm]

Do you think it would be possible to have that georgetown event on sunday. Colorado springs has bike week that week and we will be doing demos on saturday.

[WhiteRavenKS]

yes it is possible, noted.

[redworm]

In the past I believe that banana belt was on September 11-12, It's just something to think about but I know it was really fun and difficult last year, but it might not even be happening right.

[AndyT]

banana belts always been my favorite one- some sweet shit to ride... I would've killed to know that it was going on last year- I heard about it 2 days afterwards, I would defintely go to it this year if they have one...just have to let us know!

[WhiteRavenKS]

i heard it was officially going on the morning of the event. the reason two people showed up last year was because the event was not well promoted... well i should say, accurately promoted. no one knew if it was going down or not. hopefully that wont be an issue this year.

[ascentrek]

Thanks for the info Kevin! I'll mark those dates down. I would like to compete if there's beginner shtuff there. Also, if you need a volunteer, for judging or setup, let me know! :bigthumb:

[AndyT]

could anyone possibliy do like a whole list of comps in/around CO and the NATS?

[WhiteRavenKS]

NATS:
Motorama, Harrisburg, PA - February 21 (Saturday)

Keyesville Classic, Keyesville, CA - May 9 (Sunday) date change!

Squamish Test of Metal, British Columbia - June 20 (Sunday)

Trials Training Center, Sequatchie, TN - July 10 (Saturday)

Seven Springs Resort, Seven Springs, PA - July 31 (Saturday)

Colorado, somewhere, CO - August, 14 (Saturday)


Gnorba Gnational:
May 22-23
U.S. National Trials Series #1
Snow Summit Resort
Big Bear Lake, Calif.

May 29-30
U.S. National Trials Series #2
Colorado Springs, Colo.

June 18-20
U.S. National Trials Series #3
*Team USA Selection Event
Mt. Snow Resort
West Dover, Vt.

July 16-18
U.S. National Trials Series #4
Eureka Springs Fat Tire Festival
Eureka Springs, Ark.

Aug. 27-29
U.S. National Trials Series Finals
Durango Mountain Resort
Durango, Colo.

colorado series (as of now):
April 17/18- Boulder Canyon
May 15- Gunnison- rage in the sage
May29-31- Colorado Springs
June 26/27- Georgetown/mtn folk location
July 3/4- trials bbq get-together. anyone want a comp this weekend? who's in town?
July 17/18- Ft collins
Aug 21/22- Vedavoo WY
Sept 11/12- Ft Collins OR Boulder Canyon

[Elan]

i thin kwe whould have more in june august and september