View Full Version : Tiredness from rearwheel hops.
llamaman
06-17-2008, 11:20 PM
I have rearwheel hopping down pretty good now found out my cranks weren't in the right possition. My question is now that i can hop about 20 times in a row i get so tired from doing it that i start to loose balance and fall because i get tired. so is this something that will get more efficient over time or does it normally get everyone exausted from doing it?
[BMF] Chris
06-17-2008, 11:24 PM
i get tired after like 5 hops, i cant think of any moves in trials requiring more than 17, but seriously- theres no need to hop that much. you will never use moe than 10 or so in ANY move, no matter how bad your setup is. the goal is to have the least amount of setup hops before taking off.
llamaman
06-17-2008, 11:34 PM
yeah i wasn't ever planning on hopping for that long in trials but i just thought good riders could jump forever.
AgrAde
06-18-2008, 12:13 AM
yeah... if i don't go for a high-ish sidehop within the first 8 or so setup hops i'm guaranteed to fuck it up because i'll be tired.
i find the more you do it, the more efficient you are.. your hops are small, and are just pretty much just pushing down your weight... you notice that you'll lurch forward a bit more than hoping.
keep at it.. it will get easier and easier.
k
FDS2223
06-18-2008, 01:20 AM
i find the more you do it, the more efficient you are.. your hops are small, and are just pretty much just pushing down your weight... you notice that you'll lurch forward a bit more than hoping.
keep at it.. it will get easier and easier.
k
What he said. As you get better your body will earn how to relax more while doing these moves and wont wear you out as much. Your balance will also improve between hops which will also save you a lot of energy.
caleb1978
06-18-2008, 10:15 AM
Found out the other day that I was holding my breath unconsciously, while trying to learn...that was making me winded real fast...very hard to think about breathing for some reason while hopping for me.
Big-D
06-18-2008, 10:29 AM
once u get better, you won't need as many. You will also build up some strength in the muscles you use to hop, so after time it will get better. Also, are you on a low bb bike? caus that takes a ton more energy to keep at its balance point.
Found out the other day that I was holding my breath unconsciously, while trying to learn...that was making me winded real fast...very hard to think about breathing for some reason while hopping for me.
try riding with your mouth open a little before starting the move. it's helped me remember to breathe.
caleb1978
06-18-2008, 10:42 AM
try riding with your mouth open a little before starting the move. it's helped me remember to breathe.
I'll try that tonight.
music_maj_34
06-18-2008, 10:52 AM
Sometimes for practice I try and stay on my rear tire in one spot for as long as I can without hopping. (basically a manual, but staying in one spot)
I find that if you are TRYING to hop, you get winded real quick. (yes, remember to breathe) If you have your tire bounce just enough to correct your balance you can stay on your rear tire a lot longer without fatigue setting in.
But just as everyone else mentioned... typically you want to get off your rear tire as soon as possible anyway, so 20 hops is kinda overkill.
carnagr
06-20-2008, 04:46 PM
Most people will get tired after 20 hops, but the better you are, the longer the time between hops.
ramnation1
06-23-2008, 08:40 AM
practice practice practice. Ride with someone you know won't hold back on noticing things to help out. not judgemental or disturbed, but in a helping hand kind of way. little things are usually the difference in everything. especially from another rider.
trauma100
06-23-2008, 04:47 PM
Train! http://youtube.com/watch?v=nDPvwg_Hu9I
music_maj_34
06-24-2008, 09:38 AM
Train! http://youtube.com/watch?v=nDPvwg_Hu9I
I wanted to kill myself within 5 seconds of watching that video. :eek3:
stpatr3k
06-25-2008, 02:37 AM
Most people will get tired after 20 hops, but the better you are, the longer the time between hops.
Sometimes when you have a mindset that you need to be hopping, you concentrate on making that hop happen. Sometimes much faster or much more than needed. Changing your perception from doing "backhops" to balancing on the rear time at place helps. One way is you can sometimes stall to conserve energy.
Not having the hop down also makes you exert more energy.
Sometimes proper rear brake lever position helps, I have my rear brake lever a bit less angle with the ground. Neutral position is when you are in the rear wheel position, its when your finger should be at a very relaxed angle. Fingers affects your arms and affects your energy.
Air_Force_Trials
07-13-2008, 05:51 AM
I always found that whenever you try to practice something, the best way to practice a certain move is to try and use that move to do something else. An example of that would be, if you want to practice back tire hopping, don't just go to rear wheel and start back tire hopping. Go to rear wheel and then try and do something else like a gap or jump up onto something. That way your mind doesn't focus on one thing and your body will remember it better. I learned how to turn on the rear wheel by using this method. I would purposly go to rear wheel facing away from an object that I would want to get up onto and then it would force me to turn.
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