overall HELP

[Pegcityskank]

k i've been trying to get the rock walk down, and i can get my back wheel spun to the front (180), but after that, i can barely move the front wheel. also, i can do a stoppie fine, but i'm finding it really hard to do a hop on the wheel, and by far the one thing that i'm finding the hardest, and want to learn is pedal kicks ( jumping on the back wheel) i know it's kinda hard to explain over the internet, but any help is greatly appreciated

also i'm riding a Norco ryde, not a trials bike.

[Elan]

how long have you been riding. i remember when i first started riding bike and found about about trials. it took me like 7 months to get the backwheel hop. ride everyday, try stuff, ride with other people, watch videos. that how you get better.

[[BMF] Chris]

rock walk- use momentum
pedal kick- release brake+ kick pedal + grab brake = pedal kick

[[BMF] Chris]

oh wait,or just buy a high bb bike and youll be tapping 5 foot walls next week but wont be able to track stand.......

[pineapplegti]

Chris;503432']oh wait,or just buy a high bb bike and youll be tapping 5 foot walls next week but wont be able to track stand.......
after 2 weeks of riding my new to me adamant a2 i almost got the track stand down.. the key is the mod stem. funny though im having a hard time getting the front end up at all :sadwavey:

[nikkocholo]

it's really hard on the first week...but you'll get along as you ride..watch videos of RL..I think he teaches how...also try some tutorial vids at trashzen.com

I also ride A2, yeah it's hard to track stand on it, but as you get along you'll nail it and you'll be gapping like you never did before hehehhe or you'll be rear wheel hopping as long as you want hehehe

[stpatr3k]

Nikkocholo I told you to swap that A2 to my frame but you gotta add $$$ :rofl:



I could never get the 2nd turn down until I did it on a park on soil so I won't get scared of falling. I could barely complete the 2nd turn to a full 180 deg but I figured I was about to start another 180 (the 1st 180 of the move) for the rear so I just need to roll a bit on that next endo to complete the 180 (the 2nd 180 the move).

[caleb1978]

As much as I hate to say it Ryan lychee (sp?) is a big help on you-tube for those moves. Each one you described is available. Try putting your front wheel up on a bench or something, that will get you close to the back wheel balance point. Try 1 or 2 little hops and put the front tire back down on the bench, and repeat... This is not easy, I have been working on it for months, and it requires a lot of patience. But on the bright side, when you get it you will feel GREAT:h5:

[Pegcityskank]

sorry if it's a newb question but whats a high bb bike also i've been riding my current bike since last year ish but have only started doing trial stuff since this season , since my bike is fairly new i don't wanna trade it in for a trials bike quite yet ( don't think the prents will like it either.) also i noticed the brakes on a lot of trial bikes are, well crazy, hydro disc in the front? and most i've seen have like a hydro vbrake thing goin on? what are the rear ones?

[caleb1978]

high BB refers to the bottom bracket, where the cranks go in, being higher off of the ground then your axles. What that does is complex, but it's the right way for a trials specific bike. As for the brakes, I would say most people run magguras-hydrolic rim brakes, but yah there are a lot of disk fronts out there. The first question is, do your brakes lock up, and can you track stand-no moving no brakes? There are lots of suggestions for how to make your brakes work better. Try using the search and put in brakes, grinding rims, v-brakes, whatever....you will learn a ton
also search for trials geometry, that will give you a feel for the differences in trials spacific bikes versus other lame ass bikes.
Good luck, don't give up, it will get easier.
Also may want to consider purchasing a new frame and transferring the usable bits from your current bike, lots of used frames on here for sale.

Holly Shit Thats Long

[FDS2223]

if you cant spin on the back tire during the rock walk then you need to work on your static rear pivots.

[Pegcityskank]

my brakes don't fully lock up, and i can do an alright track stand, and i'll look into the bikes FS on here

[caleb1978]

grind those rims, can only help your brake. Also you may want to look at the Marino frame option. Search and find the details, great guy+cheap custom frames=:)
Do you know of any trials riders in your area?

[Pegcityskank]

grind those rims, can only help your brake. Also you may want to look at the Marino frame option. Search and find the details, great guy+cheap custom frames=:)
Do you know of any trials riders in your area?

prob. a dumb question but whats "grinding rims" also i don't know of any trial riders near me ( i'm from winnipeg, so anyone else that is PM me)

[Big-D]

prob. a dumb question but whats "grinding rims" also i don't know of any trial riders near me ( i'm from winnipeg, so anyone else that is PM me)
Take a hand grinder and lightly grind your rims down where the pad meets metal. It will make the area really rough + give you a ton of grip with your pads.

[Pegcityskank]

i have disc brakes, and mech. not hydraulic should i grind the disc?

[thisthingz]

no dont do it.

[Elan]

you want your disc to be clean as possible with no scratches. and you want your pads to be as clean as possible to. thats the only way youre going to get good lock with a disc brake.

[caleb1978]

if you have disks, they should be capable of locking up! Lots of threads discuss this, again the search thing^^^at top of page. I can't do the "walk" well, but I think it's the large soft tire on a 19" rim on back that prevents it?:dunno:

[pineapplegti]

Yesterday was a fun day. im almost ok at rock walking :hs: i really felt the bike pivot on the rear tire. All i have to say is lean back .. :)
also i got 3 or 4 pedals in fakie at the park :) damn kids on the bmx bikes makin it look easy..
http://i49.photobucket.com/albums/f268/pineapplegti/4DoorGolf126.jpg

[caleb1978]

If so, those breaks should lock-100%

[pineapplegti]

If so, those breaks should lock-100%
yes it is.. i have a mod stem now though i have had no problems with my brakes

[ramnation1]

you want your disc to be clean as possible with no scratches. and you want your pads to be as clean as possible to. thats the only way youre going to get good lock with a disc brake.

$$$ RESIN pads are great for sticky stops $$$
Cheaper routes are thus---
I usually take my wheel, and use plumbers tape (blue cloth sand paper) and scuff not only my pads before a ride, but my rotor as well. It lock 'em up and cleans the glazing off if you do have any. Think about it in these terms. You take a car in for the brakes to get checked, Your rotor needs to be (DE-GLAZED) what do you think they do? They take it and put it on a machine, and mill a minute amount of metal off to make it pristine again, they also clean up the pads because they are the things that cause this dilemma in the first place. ***Secondly, if you get fluid on your pads, or the have any type of oils on them, you can put them in a vice and torch them... mind you this is the last resort AND the brakes will not last very long after but they will f'n grab no doubt***

[kpop]

sick dub duder

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[Pegcityskank]

k so i got a few questions

mod is like 20" wheels and stock is 26" or so right? not like mod is added stuff to it, and stock is how you bought it

also if that is the case, which is better for what

oh and i see that most tires aren't fully pumped, but they have like a bit of a cushion, what psi do most of you use, or is it more of a feel thing

[caleb1978]

Mod vs stock is all about the axle width. Mod does not refer to modifications in the same way cars do...Stock is a size not a state of being:momaru:
Air pressure depends on what you like, and what you run.

[Pegcityskank]

is one more suited to one type of riding as opposed to the other?

[HipHopapotomus]

^ i didn't think mod v stock had anything to do with axle width and everything to do with wheel size? 20 v 26" am i wrong?

as for which is suited to what, from what i've heard it's just what you are comfortable with, i've been told if you have a bmx background you will probably have an easier time on a mod, whereas if you have a mtb background you will prefer a stock... that said i have never ridden bmx and have ridden mtb for years, and i like mod more than stock (so far, i'm definitely a newb)

[caleb1978]

As for the size of wheel it is strange- there are 26" bikes that are mods , and 24" stock bikes, never heard of a 20" stock, but I am also fairly new.
If you could get a chance to ride a couple trials bikes you would be better off then trying to decide by reading. If not I would say there would be no reason for you to try 20" if you have always ridden 26". But it could be easier, and a trials bike doesn't really feel like a regular bike, so whatever you think you would like.

[ktdid]

is one more suited to one type of riding as opposed to the other?

It's mostly preference, but there are some differences due to geometry - for example, stocks (26" wheel) are usually more forgiving when you're learning to roll up and down things, since you have a bigger wheel and can power through if you mess up, but mods (20" wheel) generally have a shorter wheelbase so you can get into tighter spots. Ultimately I think it's what you feel more comfortable on though.

[Pegcityskank]

i won't be able to try out the different sizes, but i think i might go with a 20" even though i've been riding 26 for a long time, i seem to think that i'll find it more comfortable

[Pegcityskank]

soo i was looking around on the F/S area and stumbled upon this

http://www.observedtrials.net/vb/showthread.php?p=506940&posted=1#post506940

yea? no? for a beginner.

[jak442]

soo i was looking around on the F/S area and stumbled upon this

http://www.observedtrials.net/vb/showthread.php?p=506940&posted=1#post506940

yea? no? for a beginner.

Not positive, but I think it has a very high BB, which would make it a little harder to learn on.