Reset Owners

[mistri@l]

Its time for a new bike this season
im sticking with 24's again
so im curious to those who own a reset
what is it like?how does it handle for street and natural.
what is your set up?

i was looking into the inspired as well but this year id like to run rear disk over magura.
their isnt to much option for 24 so i want to make sure spending 850 on a frame is worth it.

[LukeRainbird]

The 24Uk features a disc mount, and the new version (MkII) should be out soon :)

[monkeyseemonkeydo]

I know it's not what you want to hear but I can't speak highly enough for the Inspired. I'm so comfortable on mine it's unreal and just feels right, no matter what I throw at it. In my opinion rear discs are for comps, when things get wet and muddy.

[mistri@l]

I know it's not what you want to hear but I can't speak highly enough for the Inspired. I'm so comfortable on mine it's unreal and just feels right, no matter what I throw at it. In my opinion rear discs are for comps, when things get wet and muddy.

do you have any pics of your set up?
ya i have been looking into the inspired
the one on tartybikes looks awesome.


also lukerain guy
i just rode the 24uk the past year
dont get me wrong i loved it. but id like something a little differnt
i beleive the geo on all frames is quite similar. the reason why i want disk
is because while riding my 24uk i really got a taste for park and street riding with it, and maguras were just to much for that style of riding. ive had mags on the rear for years .if i get a disk its going to be the hope mono trial.

[no_seat_no_ED]

are leeson's different enough?

[LukeRainbird]

i just rode the 24uk the past year
dont get me wrong i loved it. but id like something a little differnt
i beleive the geo on all frames is quite similar. the reason why i want disk
is because while riding my 24uk i really got a taste for park and street riding with it, and maguras were just to much for that style of riding. ive had mags on the rear for years .if i get a disk its going to be the hope mono trial.
Fair play, but why not just the 24UK plus somwthing other than a maggie?
New frames have just arrived from the manufacturer, and are currently being stickered up ;)

If not, Leeson rigs are always awesome

[flixlee]

You need a Molly damnit!

[TTownJon]

do you have any pics of your set up?
ya i have been looking into the inspired
the one on tartybikes looks awesome.


also lukerain guy
i just rode the 24uk the past year
dont get me wrong i loved it. but id like something a little differnt
i beleive the geo on all frames is quite similar. the reason why i want disk
is because while riding my 24uk i really got a taste for park and street riding with it, and maguras were just to much for that style of riding. ive had mags on the rear for years .if i get a disk its going to be the hope mono trial.



You think a mono trial is going to be less grabby than a magura? I thought so too, but the first time I tried to feather the brake manualing a friends 221ti with a mono-trial, the rear wheel stopped so fast my feet came off the pedals and I ended up riding along ass on toptube. you might want to look elsewhere for street disk brakes....

[monkeyseemonkeydo]

do you have any pics of your set up?
ya i have been looking into the inspired
the one on tartybikes looks awesome.


http://img406.imageshack.us/img406/7100/dsc03102mediumdh5.jpg

That's mine, more pics at http://www.observedtrials.net/vb/showthread.php?t=34452

Have just ordered a set of white magnesium pedals and have a 74Kingz tensioner to put on which should finish it off perfectly :D

I love it!


You think a mono trial is going to be less grabby than a magura? I thought so too, but the first time I tried to feather the brake manualing a friends 221ti with a mono-trial, the rear wheel stopped so fast my feet came off the pedals and I ended up riding along ass on toptube. you might want to look elsewhere for street disk brakes....


To be honest, that's a lame reason to tell someone not to buy the brakes. Of course the first time you ride a totally different bike with discs your not gonna be able to predict how much lever force is required. Believe me, you get used to the feel of discs and they are far easier to modulate than a grabby maggy on a ground rim. When I first got my DD 221PR I was pulling the levers sooo hard because I didn't expect them to hold, mainly because you don't get that audible feedback like when using a maggy. You soon get used to it though.

That's irrelevant in this case though because the Inspired's the best choice!!

[mistri@l]

looks real good man
so what the geo like compared to the 24uk? i imagine its quite similar
but as far as your build goes looks pretty close to the set up id have going.
id like to go for more of a bmx streety set up

still lookin for those reset owners lol

[willbed]

I'll try to bring MegamoMidwest down this thread,
of all the Reset owners I can think of, he's one who knew absolutely nothing about us prior to ordering his frame, and he had never tried one until he built his own bike up... I'm assuming he's gonna have a totally unbiased opinion for you...

[jaebo]

not to hijack the thread,
but does anyone know if the uk24 mk2 has been released, there were preorders late last year?
any pics of one etc?

[TTownJon]

To be honest, that's a lame reason to tell someone not to buy the brakes. Of course the first time you ride a totally different bike with discs your not gonna be able to predict how much lever force is required. Believe me, you get used to the feel of discs and they are far easier to modulate than a grabby maggy on a ground rim. When I first got my DD 221PR I was pulling the levers sooo hard because I didn't expect them to hold, mainly because you don't get that audible feedback like when using a maggy. You soon get used to it though.

That's irrelevant in this case though because the Inspired's the best choice!!

Im not telling him not to buy the brakes, just warning him that they are rediculously grabby, as much or more than maggies with a grind or tar.

I also ride (well, rode) a dual disk bike, with avid bb7s - set up for 'on or off' trials use. I still didn't even think of touching the brakes while manualing unless I was ready to be on two wheels again. Surely it would be possible to still modulate them for manuals and such, but in my opinion it would get to be a pain in the ass.... much like was the case for me :eek3danc:

all that said, I would kill for an inspired frame.

[LukeRainbird]

I'm not sure about preorders etc, however Steve@Heatsink has received a batch of the new frames, and they look amazing.
Keep your eyes and ears open and good things shall come to those who wait :)

not to hijack the thread,
but does anyone know if the uk24 mk2 has been released, there were preorders late last year?
any pics of one etc?

[MegamoMidwest]

looks real good man
so what the geo like compared to the 24uk? i imagine its quite similar
but as far as your build goes looks pretty close to the set up id have going.
id like to go for more of a bmx streety set up

still lookin for those reset owners lol

I was planning on waiting until after Keyesville to do a full on review so that I would have a few weeks of really getting to know the ins and outs of the frame but seeing as there's interest in this now, tomorrow I'll hit you guys up in the afternoon with a review of the frame and a couple of pictures.


-Paul

[LukeRainbird]

I've just heard from Steve @ Heatsink;
The frames in the present batch were all pre-ordered, so will be shipped out to their respective owners within the next few days, however it is possible that one MAY become availble (in the new red colour option, possibly the nicest colour...) dependant on Fredd Judd. If Fred decides against riding this frame will be available for purchase.
The Heatsink site should soon have the option to pre-order a frame for the next batch, along with some VERY cool/interesting features and options.

Keep your eyes peeled, as images should be up shortly of the new frames in all their glory :)

http://www.heatsinkbikes.com

[morley]

I may be a dash biased, since I prefer high end steel bikes and premium tubesets... but I'm hooked on 24's and my ride. Maybe it's because I've always lured towards premium products and ethical companies, or maybe it's because I can't stand Coors light. I've never been able to understand how people ride aluminum for street or natural, unless you're dedicated competition rider. There's just somthing about a steel frame that lets you feel the terrain while still offering a little forgiveness you if you eat it on a gnarly line. Nonetheless, the only thing missing are some holes in my back rim and a king heavy duty axel with fun bolts... then I'll have my perfect ride.

As for the hope mono trials... they are amazing for steet and trials. After putting these on, my only regret is that I didn't go dual disc earlier. Perhaps the best trials product since the king hub... I'll try and post pics of my bike when I can get my hands on a camera since I've changed my setup in the last few months. I was on a 9 hour ride last saturday and I'm still wondering why I didn't switch over to dual discs earlier.

Bottom line... 24's are fun on the street, in the woods, or at yer house before a hockey game.

[MegamoMidwest]

Thanks for bringing this thread back on topic Morley...

Let me preface this review by saying that this frame has gotten me back into riding after taking well over a year off. I didn't think that was possible because the lack of riding was due to a lack of motivation, not of time or health.

It's been a seriously long time since I have actually wanted to get out and go ride trials, but I have now been riding this frame every day since building it up three weeks ago tomorrow. I can't get enough.

http://www.observedtrials.net/otn4/PICT2954.jpg

Now down to the riding:

This frame is by far the nicest trials frame I have ever really ridden (Coust, Megamo Equip Pro, Megamo mod, Levelboss 1065, Monty X-lite and (ha!) an Orange Zero). I emphasize really because it's hard to get an idea of how a frame rides by a couple of backhops in the parking lot. There is absolutely nothing that rides like this grade of steel. Nothing. The bike feels planted to the ground in a way that can only be likened to the trunk of a tree. A light and flickable tree. It's light enough that I could throw it across my living room, yet stout enough to really let me know its strong. And I mean strong. When I first unwrapped the frame I was concerned about the dainty (but beautiful) taper to the chainstay and was hoping I wouldn't have to be all fragile with it, but any hesitations I had were swiftly thrown out the window when I hopped on. This steel just has a solid feeling to it that I have never felt in any aluminum tubesets - or any frame I've thrown a leg over before for that matter. It really lets you detect the flex and flaws of your other components. But by solid I don't just mean strong; this bike absorbs the unanticipated. It lets you feel the landscape of the terrain that your riding. It's really strange, but it sort of just connects you to the ground.

In addition, the geometry is killer. It was exactly what I wanted. Right now I'm riding the bars nice and low for taps, rollups and pure trials maneuvers, but for the first week I slackened the head angle with a Fox Vanilla R that I dropped down to 80mm to tear up the trails and urban. I learned how to manual on this thing within the first two days of riding it. Can you imagine, six or so years of trials on the back wheel and I've never learned to manual. It was the move I never thought I'd learn.

However, I only rode the suspension set up for 4 or 5 days because I was eager to get something light and rigid up front. The length of the steerer forced me to run the bars a little low, but I'm glad I did because I would probably never have opened up the "UCI" side of this bike. 20mm up on the BB is the perfect level for this frame; any higher and it would feel twitchy and unstable and any lower might feel sluggish and weighty. On the back wheel I feel like the correction hops I'm making are either for tempo or just out of habit because I can place the bike and look for the next move almost more comfortably than I can on two wheels.

The flowy lines, though, are where I think the 24" wheels really shine. They may not be able to roll over stuff quite as well without that extra inch on each side (I have yet to notice this), but god damn do you notice it when you spin. When before I fought with the bike to get it to go where I wanted it to, this one takes but a glance in the general direction to get it to sweep the front end around. Life on the front end is good too, as I feel much more comfortable getting my weight over the bow with the smaller wheel size.

http://www.observedtrials.net/otn4/PICT2956.jpg

Aside from the fact that I love V's, I would have no hesitation in putting a disc on back. The only other frame I can say this for is the Equip Pro. The disc mount brace may be skinny, but this frame has transformed what I thought metal could do. Not a day goes by that I don't thank my seat and gears for riding to the spot (riding partners do get jealous though). The dropouts cup my funbolts (take that out of context, why don't you) nicely, and the cable stops are thoughtfully laid out. Plus, the seat stay is the perfect diameter for a thumbie!

I took a long time deciding which frame to go with - I had all the choices that you do. Will was super helpful with all the complications I had with color choice and transferring money to Canada and he even threw in a free $70 bottom bracket just in case mine wasn't wide enough (it wasn't). All I have to say I am so glad I made the choice I did - the ring of this steel lets me know that every time I flick it.

Here's the parts list for all that are interested:

Reset - "Fudge Brown"
400mm Orange fork (I have a suspicion that it's the same as an Echo Urban)
Avid Single Digit 5 levers and rear caliper, 185 BB7 up front
Bolted King hubs front and back (stainless driveshell)
laced 14 gauge to a Rhynolite and an Alex DX32
Maxxis Holy Roller 2.4s (sidewall's a little thin for the back, might switch soon).
King headset
Thompson stem (I'll get the measurements, it's been lying around for a while)
Truvativ Hussefelt 31.8 bars
Middleburns connected by a really awesome BB that Will gave me free of charge (with a modified MRP roller for fast, jumpy moves)
The "Ass Cleaver" saddle, handed down to me by Bill with superlight (and flexy) seatpost
that's about all that's important, except the Veloce deralleur I had lying around.

-Paul

[monkeyseemonkeydo]

...


Please put your set down a bit... (Nice writeup by the way, though you'll never tempt me off my Inspired)

[willbed]

Hehehe - I knew Paul loved his bike, but never expected such a positive and extensive review...

Seeing people like Morley and MegamoMidwest, who can actually notice and truly appreciate the increase in quality of the materials we used for these frames over (please let me use this term) asian popcans, proves us we were not the only ones thinking the Reset frame could bring something good/new/different to a market that's flooded with mass-produced asian-made frames which often use low-grade fence-post-like tubesets to keep the unit price as low as possible... that is worth a lot to us...

So in the end, it really depends on your own definition of "being worth it"

useless info starts here

If you do some research, you'll find out that TrueTemper's OX Platinum alloy can withstand much more stress than ANY aluminum alloy (roughly 3 times more actually) with all the physical advantages of steel for a final weight that's under 4.5lbs... And the frame is stiff as hell...

Beyond carefully choosing the very best materials for each part of this frame, we decided to support the NorthAmerican industry by keeping the entire production here. This does mean that our production costs are indeed higher, but from my pt of view it also means MUCH MORE in relation to the current NorthAmerican economical situation, and to me it's just another good reason for being very proud of not going Asian with these frames...

Just like the "High Strength / Low Weight / Low Price = pick 2" formula, "Support the NorthAmerican Economy / Make Lots of Money / Keep a Low Retail Price = pick 2" requires a choice which can be tough at times...
We decided to sacrifice profit margins a little so that the end price could remain as low as possible, while still keeping all that money flowing in NorthAmerica...

In the end, a Reset frame IS INDEED a bit more expensive compared to those aluminum taiwanese frames, but considering what both of them cost to produce and the overall final product VS their respective retail price, I truly beleive the Reset frame's price is totally fair, and worth every single dollar of it.

useless info ends here

[MegamoMidwest]

Please put your set down a bit... (Nice writeup by the way, though you'll never tempt me off my Inspired)

thanks for the advice homes, but I have a seat on my bike for a reason.

nice looking rig, by the way.

[BrettM]

The flowy lines, though, are where I think the 24" wheels really shine. They may not be able to roll over stuff quite as well without that extra inch on each side (I have yet to notice this), but god damn do you notice it when you spin. When before I fought with the bike to get it to go where I wanted it to, this one takes but a glance in the general direction to get it to sweep the front end around. Life on the front end is good too, as I feel much more comfortable getting my weight over the bow with the smaller wheel size.

A lot of what you are describing there is not just from the 24 inch wheels. A lot of that is the 73 degree head tube angle. All the other bikes that use 71.5 or whatever I could never stand. It never felt like I was in control of the bike, I was just on it.

Very nice review by the way. I own 3 steel bikes. 1 reynolds, 1 ox platinum and one just regular strait guage steel. I'm not so sure that steel is the best material for the long and low trials bike. Actually I'm sure it isn't. But for a bike like the reset or the bikes I have its such a great choice.

[mistri@l]

he even threw in a free $70 bottom bracket just in case mine wasn't wide enough (it wasn't)l
wait
wasnt wide enough?
just how wide is the bb shell?
i really had my mind set on a set if diety vandettas

[BrettM]

Its not the bb shell that is the issue. Its regular. You need a wide bottom bracket to make sure the crankarms clear the frame.

[morley]

My reset...

[LukeRainbird]

Information/pictures of the new Heatsink 24uk Mk II have been leaked online, and can be found through TF, however eyes on the website for official info... :)

TF Thread now online; containing pictures and detailed info - http://www.trials-forum.co.uk/forum/index.php?showtopic=116294

[mistri@l]

My reset...



morely that reset is so sick
thats pretty much the set up i plan to run as well
so how long of bb did you need?
like i said iw ant to run diety's witht he bb and i hope its long enough

[morley]

I just use a normal race face mountain bike BB. Deity cranks should work fine, although they are a bit on the heavy side of things.

The new Heatsinks remind me of the old 24 freeride bikes, pretty thick and burly. It seems weird latly, everything in trials seems overbuilt and heavy.... while bmx components are getting more refined and lighter every year.

[mistri@l]

I just use a normal race face mountain bike BB. Deity cranks should work fine, although they are a bit on the heavy side of things.

The new Heatsinks remind me of the old 24 freeride bikes, pretty thick and burly. It seems weird latly, everything in trials seems overbuilt and heavy.... while bmx components are getting more refined and lighter every year.

yeah but ive heard good reviews on them, plus ti axle in the bb.

yeah thats what i thought about the new 24 as well.

i plan to try and get away with as many bmx parts as i can just for that reason.
like the eastern plastic pedals
15$ a pair cant go wrong
hope to see some footage of you on the reset
rally up the ol island crew

[MegamoMidwest]

Morley that color looks slick. I can dig. What's the height on that fork? I'm running 400, but seeing as the steerer's too short and I'm in the market for a new one, I'm thinking of bumping up to 420mm.

Mistri@l, the 118mm spindle didn't quite clear with a 22 tooth - 128mm is the way to go. It probably depends on the crankarm and chainring size that you're running though.

Brett, I see what you mean with the head angle. I didn't attribute it to that at first, but now I totally notice it - especially when hopping on my buddy's levelboss. it's all out there and whacky.

Oh, and any recommendations on rear tires? that Holy Roller's sidewall is way to flimsy for me. High Roller? Shwalbe? Nokian?

That being said, I'm going riding.

[mistri@l]

tMorley that color looks slick. I can dig. What's the height on that fork? I'm running 400, but seeing as the steerer's too short and I'm in the market for a new one, I'm thinking of bumping up to 420mm.

Mistri@l, the 118mm spindle didn't quite clear with a 22 tooth - 128mm is the way to go. It probably depends on the crankarm and chainring size that you're running though.

Brett, I see what you mean with the head angle. I didn't attribute it to that at first, but now I totally notice it - especially when hopping on my buddy's levelboss. it's all out there and whacky.

Oh, and any recommendations on rear tires? that Holy Roller's sidewall is way to flimsy for me. High Roller? Shwalbe? Nokian?

That being said, I'm going riding.


the holy roller,krad,kiniptions
any of those tires have thin sidewalls, but learn to ride it.
i rode Krads for an entire year and didnt have to many issues
they were light rolled fast and hooked up suprisingly well for natural.
i ran then at 20psi and didnt have any issues.

[mistri@l]

I just use a normal race face mountain bike BB. Deity cranks should work fine, although they are a bit on the heavy side of things.

The new Heatsinks remind me of the old 24 freeride bikes, pretty thick and burly. It seems weird latly, everything in trials seems overbuilt and heavy.... while bmx components are getting more refined and lighter every year.

morely i just checked out ur website.
really well done
i liked that article you did as well.
It was good to seeing those old videos again.

[morley]

Thanks for the complements, I need to make a new video one day... brett was the main filmer back then and he's hard to get in town these days.

Actually I just checked out the new 2008 deity cranks and they are a fair bit lighter with the Ti axel 820g with BB.

As for the fork it's 400mm, and I use a 2" riser bar. I'm not into a high front end, and I'm not that tall of a rider.

As for a rear tire I'm a big fan of the arrow launch its got a thick sidewall and a nice tread pattern. The perfect rear tire for 24" IMO... as for the front. Kenda 2.1 small block 8 (540g). Rims alex dx32 drilled. 540g post drilling.

[mistri@l]

Thanks for the complements, I need to make a new video one day... brett was the main filmer back then and he's hard to get in town these days.

Actually I just checked out the new 2008 deity cranks and they are a fair bit lighter with the Ti axel 820g with BB.

As for the fork it's 400mm, and I use a 2" riser bar. I'm not into a high front end, and I'm not that tall of a rider.

As for a rear tire I'm a big fan of the arrow launch its got a thick sidewall and a nice tread pattern. The perfect rear tire for 24" IMO... as for the front. Kenda 2.1 small block 8 (540g). Rims alex dx32 drilled. 540g post drilling.

always enjoy seeing your input into the trials world.
do you have any other older videos locked up anywhere?
i remember that whole anti trials and street series haha..

yeah the deitys anrnt to bad, they are really stiff.
ill probably just track down another knifen to run on the front end
Actually on my 24uk i ran a titec helbent xc tweaked far forward
it felt amazing having my front end so low, i had way more control for trials and it even felt better riding park.
By the way how is the reset in the park?

[no_seat_no_ED]

props on the resets

[BrettM]

Last 2 times I was in town you were nowhere to be seen. I'll come in on the long weekend. Do you get a 4 day weekend? I'm liking the look of the bike. I'll have to have a go on it and see how many problems jump out at me this time like they did at Whistler.

Man those deity cranks are heavy. Even at 820 thats a half pound heavier than say Bonz or Middleburns and thats with a bash on them. Once you put a bash and ring on those Deitys I dunno.

[MegamoMidwest]

t


the holy roller,krad,kiniptions
any of those tires have thin sidewalls, but learn to ride it.
i rode Krads for an entire year and didnt have to many issues
they were light rolled fast and hooked up suprisingly well for natural.
i ran then at 20psi and didnt have any issues.

It's not really an issue of learning how to ride it. To me, there are three things that a tire needs to do well for trials: conform/absorb, grip and support. For the first, the adjustment is pressure. For the second it's compound and durometer of rubber. The third is the sidewall stiffness, of which this tire has about as much as ten day old lettuce.

That Arrow Racing tire looks pretty good; the Prime Bite tire also looks pretty cool: 2.75", heavy duty casing and extra thick sidewalls and 47d rubber :yum: I wonder if it would fit?

[morley]

For a heavy duty rear, I'd go kenda nevgal. If you want somthing a little more versatile then arrow. I have a sticky nevgal for the rear I toss on every now and then. A

[mistri@l]

It's not really an issue of learning how to ride it. To me, there are three things that a tire needs to do well for trials: conform/absorb, grip and support. For the first, the adjustment is pressure. For the second it's compound and durometer of rubber. The third is the sidewall stiffness, of which this tire has about as much as ten day old lettuce.

That Arrow Racing tire looks pretty good; the Prime Bite tire also looks pretty cool: 2.75", heavy duty casing and extra thick sidewalls and 47d rubber :yum: I wonder if it would fit?

sorry i worded that wrong, didnt mean to treat you like some n00b, you obviously have been around the trials block long enough to know what a good tire is..


Brett when are you going to be in toronto next?
should have my reset going this spring/summer
the street trials crew is pretty large, just gotta rally everyone up.

[lucky13]

who sells Reset?

[lucky13]

So these are okay on trails? What about stuffing a 26" wheel in the rear? I want to make a trailbike out of one of these,.. the geometry and construction look spot on,.. aside from my phobia of 24" wheels.

Can you get a disc only frame?

[mistri@l]

So these are okay on trails? What about stuffing a 26" wheel in the rear? I want to make a trailbike out of one of these,.. the geometry and construction look spot on,.. aside from my phobia of 24" wheels.

Can you get a disc only frame?

stuff a 26" wheel in there?
is that a serious question?

and its a trials T R I A L S frame not trails
if your afraid of 24s this frame isnt for you.

get an xc bike

[lucky13]

Yes it is a serious question dick.

If I wanted a XC bike I wouldn't be here asking about a trials bike that I can use on the trails.

Or do you just push your trials bike to the nearest rock pile and hop around a lot? I've already got one of those bikes.

Could an intelligent Canadian such as Morley or Brett answer the serious question. :momaru:

[lucky13]

Nevermind, Reset got back to me and were super polite and informative.

[mistri@l]

stuff away :greddy2:

[Matt]

Nevermind, Reset got back to me and were super polite and informative.
That's been my experience.

Thinking of picking one up myself actually.

[BrettM]

Haha we seem to have the same phobia of 24's. I have no idea if a 26 would fit. I would guess no for some reason. Out of curiousity what did he say?

[willbed]

It actually wouldn't work - a direct effect of a 24" rear wheel on the geometry is you can shorten the seatstay length by slackening the seat tube angle a bit to get that rear end boxed in, making it stiffer... There would be clearance issue at the yokes with 26" rims/tires...

[lucky13]

Yea, pretty much. If I get a chance to ride one at whistler COUGHMORLEYCOUGH I'll take it on some "trails" and just ride for fun.

Riding is supposed to be fun right?

[wickedbob]

Hey, what does both of your resets weigh? I'm looking for a light streety trials, I'm stuck between this and the mk2 and inspired. I'm learning toward the reset now.

[willbed]

The frame itself is under 4.5lbs, from there, it's all about your own buildup... We had one at 22lbs complete at the BTAC show...

Good thing is this frame is well balanced... You don't get all the weight on the rear end which often is a downside with many frames... This also has a lot to do with how it feels once built up...

[trialsn]

I'm ordering a custom frame colour from reset. Should have it all built up by late may if everything goes well. By everything I mean dollar situation.

As for the people at reset, awesome guys...they have been responding to my lame ass emails very quickly. By far the best company I've dealt with in ages!