View Full Version : Disk Brakes Wanted
Sherco
11-10-2007, 12:17 AM
Hi guys got a Dual disk Czar Mod on the way, so will need some brakes for it. Looking to spend between 3-4hun for a set or less if possible, can I get any thing deacent for that these days?
Also would consider buying a second hand set or individually if the price is right. oh and want hyrdaulic no cable, any help would be great thanks Jack
Jacko
11-10-2007, 03:48 AM
Hey Jack...
What I have 2 sets of hope mono trial brakes sitting around here. They're both rear but if you wanna grab one im happy to sell.
Macbeth
11-10-2007, 04:41 PM
I have a near new set of Shimano Deore Hydros that I am selling for $250 for the pair including XT 160mm rotors and adapters..... They were only ever on my commuter bike....
Sherco
11-10-2007, 08:22 PM
what are the mono's like? and how much are you looking for one?
buy a set of bb7s. fucking cheap. nothing but benefit.
Bryan
11-11-2007, 01:47 AM
what are the mono's like?
the mono trial (not mini) are imho the best brakes made for trials
Macbeth
11-11-2007, 05:27 AM
Mono Trial = (IMO) Shit
I had one for over a year and it was initially very good, but the caliper is CNC'd from a billet and just ended up really flexy.... I know a lot of other guys that have had problems with them too....
BB7s really are a great brake
dannyboy
11-11-2007, 05:31 AM
^^word!^^
BB7 is good.
lots of ppl have complained bout flex in caliper on hopes.. do search in trialschat im sure youll find some info bout em.
BB7s for value disc brake!
Mono Trial = (IMO) Shit
I had one for over a year and it was initially very good, but the caliper is CNC'd from a billet and just ended up really flexy.... I know a lot of other guys that have had problems with them too....
BB7s really are a great brake
how does that work something made form solid alloy has flex, its a solid not 2 peice like other brakes:nuts:
dannyboy
11-11-2007, 05:08 PM
hey BSA !
they do flex!! have u ridden them? They all flex!!!
If u dont believe us.. go do a search in trials chat on just about any forum and youll find ppl complaining about how the caliper actually flexes out wen the brake is pulled on. Thats wot gives em that loverly spongey shit feeling.
http://www.observedtrials.net/vb/showthread.php?t=25877&highlight=hope+flex
Macbeth
11-11-2007, 07:23 PM
how does that work something made form solid alloy has flex, its a solid not 2 peice like other brakes:nuts:
XTR and Juicy Ultimate calipers are one piece and they are great. That is because they are FORGED and THEN CNC'D, making them very strong and durable and flex free....
In an effort to save cost, Hope have CNC'd their calipers out of a straight billet, no forging, which looks nice, and is good for a short term, but in the long run they end up flexy, with no lever feel.
The best brakes for trials use are things that are two piuece and bolted together, because bolts are as stiff as fuck.....
Don't get Hope Mono brakes.....
J Trials 31
11-11-2007, 07:47 PM
Alright, you guys. How about this, get a Hope Mono trial with the new V!Z rotor or something like that?
So now that everyone has bagged the shit out of hope monotrial brakes - I have a one year old front right hand lever with 160 rotor in good condition for sale, its been good, but I wanted to change to a simpler setup - and hence now have a BB7, which I am not very happy with:( but at least they're cheap.
If you want buy I sell for $150.
Jacko
11-11-2007, 08:15 PM
Hmmm that went downhill fast... anyhow...
I'll do one of my rear mono trials for $150 as well to make a set. New pads in it too.
Jack
So now that everyone has bagged the shit out of hope monotrial brakes - I have a one year old front right hand lever with 160 rotor in good condition for sale, its been good, but I wanted to change to a simpler setup - and hence now have a BB7, which I am not very happy with:( but at least they're cheap.
If you want buy I sell for $150.
change your rotor, sonny! and buy odyssey linear slick cable. and set it up properly. shoulda felt mine when we were riding on sat.
Sherco
11-12-2007, 04:23 AM
wowzers that caused abit of a stir, think i will have to try a few more brakes out and see what i like.
I have had 2 sets of Dice/Armour brakes over the years and never had a problem besides cracking one of the brackets on the rear, I know they are a cheap brake but personally the best brake i have ever riden. I like a very solid lever and a brake that doesnt slip, although they dont have much modulation it doesnt bother me as all i ride is man made obstacles and just want the confidence that the brake is going to lock solid.
They work great no matter what condition, and when wet actually work better.
But after all that was considering a change so will have to get out there and try some more brakes thanks guys
Donkay
11-12-2007, 05:37 AM
I'll have to agree with the non forging build for Hope, BUT they DO feel AWESOME when they work
In the end, I thought the flex would've (and most likely) started in the hose itself but who knows....that's my thought
And my GOD Jack, I totally forgot you still ran Dice Brakes...those brakes...are probably one of the 'worst' things around...I guess if you've tried anything else, it'd be 10x better:wiggle:
We're planning a 'mega' Brisbane City South Bank ride this Sunday, so tag along, I'm pretty certain that almost everyone is coming out for a spin!
change your rotor, sonny! and buy odyssey linear slick cable. and set it up properly. shoulda felt mine when we were riding on sat.
Its not the feel that concerns me, its the fact that the stationary pad unscrews itself every 5 minutes. But good call on the linear slic kable - I'm using the standard shimano one now and its gay.
Sherco
11-12-2007, 04:09 PM
Yeah well after all that I still dont know what to get so will to have come out and try a few, as for brissy ride would be awsome but will be in Perth for a show this wknd.
Will be riding in brissy the next wknd tho so if i get time will catch up with yas for a ride, does any one go riding on wednesdays nights still up there?
Its not the feel that concerns me, its the fact that the stationary pad unscrews itself every 5 minutes. But good call on the linear slic kable - I'm using the standard shimano one now and its gay.
hmmm those new bb7s look like crappy chinese plastic
Donkay
11-13-2007, 05:55 AM
Will be riding in brissy the next wknd tho so if i get time will catch up with yas for a ride, does any one go riding on wednesdays nights still up there?
Well that's a shame you can't make it to this Sunday ride, but yeah in BRISSY we still 90% do the Wednesday night rides..
As for the Gold Coast Wednesday Night rides i'm not sure on that....You may have to get in touch with Tim
But yeah, when you're up here on a weekend, give me a yell, we're always riding on Sunday arvo's:riaa:
dannyboy
11-13-2007, 03:30 PM
Its not the feel that concerns me, its the fact that the stationary pad unscrews itself every 5 minutes. But good call on the linear slic kable - I'm using the standard shimano one now and its gay.
hey mate
maybe ask ak. i know hes runnin bb7s now too and probly has a solution to the unscrewing pad. Im gettin a set of em 08 bb7s too.
Linear slick is good but can pull thru where u cut it. (the outter strips of metal gradually pull through the plastic - mtb vees more powerful then bmx brakes). If u can find it get some XTR GEAR outer in 1.5 size. much stronger and a higher resistance to pull through of the outter wires. Even less compression too. I use this now after years of linear..
let us know bout the bb7 problem.. cheers dan
BBTAUS
11-15-2007, 01:57 PM
Hey Jack we think dice are good have never had any trouble with them .Tried hope mini 4pot caliper set up not bad but when the bike was transported to sydney we had a shit load of trouble. change back to the dice on the spot at the comp.Now we are running the new generation Quad set up very close to the dice can adjust on the run they have a grub screw like your Hs33.very low mtce What do you think of your Czar frame R/disc Have to catch up and see you do that famous back flip
regards
Buc and the crew
Macbeth
11-16-2007, 02:45 AM
Another quality post from BBTAUS
Sherco
11-22-2007, 02:22 AM
Havnt got the new Czar yet, still waiting hopefully will be here soon my old monty is well run in now. Whats the new generation quad set up? and what are they worth?
BBTAUS
11-22-2007, 03:42 PM
Havnt got the new Czar yet, still waiting hopefully will be here soon my old monty is well run in now. Whats the new generation quad set up? and what are they worth?
Jack
Give Kerry a ring at Phamtom cycles about Quads
on 0246831262 see how you go and ask for Organic pads (soft)
Then you may get that feel that all the big guns from around the place go ape shit over
should catch up with you .When is your nexted demo on and where.
Haven't got anything on the G/coast
cheers
Buc and crew
Sherco
11-24-2007, 08:48 PM
Hi Buc, Thanks for that info. Soon as i get my new bike ill be up there riding, need lots of practice havnt been on a bike in months and have a few pushi shows coming up. Have a show at the MQ awards on saturday night but besides that all the other shows are down south or over seas. Talk to ya soon mate
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