King HD axle bullshit

[durkie]

does this seem like a really horrible design to anyone else? especially from chris king....
1. rotor must be removed to adjust the hub

2. hub adjustment uses a 3/32" allen pinch bolt (wtf?)

3. The bearing adjuster has a slot cut in it so that the pinch bolt can work...so tightening the pinch bolt makes the bearing race smaller, and makes your hub less adjusted.

it seems like you have to choose between adjusted bearings that you have to deal with constantly, or loose hub that stays about that loose for a while.

how do you adjust these hubs and have them stay put?

[MIKE1968]

:rofl:


look at any of my posts 5 ? years ago, then everyone blamed me for king dropping trials from their warranty.

[tomacropod]

they are replacing the 3/32" pinch bolt with something metric.

BUT THAT DOESN'T HELP YOU!

- Joel

[BrettM]

After 2-3 times adjusting mine it stayed put forever. I also used some blue loctite to help it. I've used a HD axle on 3 different hubs and it was like that on all of them. A pain at first, but zero maintenance later on. Maybe it was just my rotor but I'm not sure if I "had" to remove it. I think I could do it with it on.

[eastside]

I just ordered the axle kit for my hub. I ran one on my mod and it did loosen up twice I believe. But after everything settled in it was maintience free. The new kit uses a 2.5mm bolt I believe. But my old hub did use a 3/32 like you stated. I was going to run a rear disc on my stock eventually and see if I like it. I guess I will have to wait until I break in the new HD kit that way I wont have to remove my rotor

[marshalllaw18]

It is a horrible design, I would have expected a lot better from a company like King. Also, not only do you have to use a 3/32" allen, but a normal one won't fit, it has to be a ball-end or something special. I wasn't happy either when I first got my new hub.

[PJL]

Don't know. I've adjusted mine twice since I got it and that's been it. To fix the adjustment issues, I bought an .89$ 3/32" wrench from the hardware store, and hacksawed it down so the short end of the "L" is about 1cm long. I can adjust the hub with my rotor on, no problems.

[jmkimmel]

does this seem like a really horrible design to anyone else? especially from chris king....
1. rotor must be removed to adjust the hub

2. hub adjustment uses a 3/32" allen pinch bolt (wtf?)

3. The bearing adjuster has a slot cut in it so that the pinch bolt can work...so tightening the pinch bolt makes the bearing race smaller, and makes your hub less adjusted.

it seems like you have to choose between adjusted bearings that you have to deal with constantly, or loose hub that stays about that loose for a while.

how do you adjust these hubs and have them stay put?

1. Buy yourself a ball-end allen wrench of the right size. In fact, buy yourself a full set - you can access that bolt just fine, as long as you rotate the wheel so that you can slide the allen between the rotor bolts.

2. And steerer tubes are 1 1/8", and spokes are 15 gauge...what's your point?

3. You, sir, are correct. It takes a couple tries to get it perfect.

[BrettM]

This is just a guess but possibly its a brilliant design that first came out for the classic CK hubs? There wouldn't be the whole rotor issue.

Also of all the poorly designed products found on trials bikes these days I will take my poorly designed CK HD axle over anything else. Its really not a big deal.

I'll be cutting my 3/32" allen key that I keep in my tool box just for the hub down asap. Sounds like a great idea. Doubt I'll need it until either a new hub or a hub overhaul.

[durkie]

yeah...sure, it's not a huge deal. but i think people want a little more from king. like they could have done a normal threaded bearing race, and a collar w/ a pinch bolt that sits on top of it. all issues solved.

and yeah you're right about 15 gauge spokes and 1 1/8" headtubes (along with 1" handlebar diameters, .5" chain pitch, 24 tpi bottom brackets, etc.). it just seems like a dumb thing to do for something people have to manipulate.

[Peace]

I havent needed to tighten my HD axle in years....

[rush]

I dont even know what you guys are talking about.

I think I have a HD axle?

[goose]

cut down allen key works like a charm. Sure it's not a perfect design, but I haven't had a problem after switching to HD 3 seasons ago. I run it on my FR and trials bike, too. It would be nice if it were metric, but because you need a cut down L key or ball end anyways, you gotta use a tool that's not usually on a multi/foldup.

[Giant1118]

adjusted mine once in maybe 2 years