What's a good bike for natural?

[Gronk]

I did a bit of a search but couldn't find anything relevant... I'm riding a mod now and down the line wanna start getting out on the natural stuff too (when the skills improve). Is a stock 'generally' preferred for for natural, or does it just come down to personal preference like all trials riding? If stocks are good, are there any specific models/geometries known to be best suited for the job?

I was offered an echo control frame, from a couple of years back, at a good price, not sure of the WB but I think it has a 0mm BB rise.

Thanks.

[AgrAde]

control frames win absolutely. there isn't really a 'good' natural geometry but there is good geometry for different riding styles and different sized people.

if you're not sure of what you want then a good basic geometry is a 1060-1080 wheelbase, about flat bb and 385 or shorter chainstays... control is all those things. it's also strong and doesn't dent too easy.

[va_tick]

good call!

[Rodmunch]

You mean 385mm or shorter chainstays, right?

[AgrAde]

yep.

[needabike]

If you're taller a koxx levelboss would be nice as well. And I just happen to have one for sale....:bigthumb:

http://www.observedtrials.net/vb/showthread.php?t=27912

[rush]

Control will be great.

Having said that, ive seen guys tear up technical natural on mongoose frames.

I would also recommend getting out and riding natural straight away.

[Gronk]

So you reckon don't wait eh, just get out there and do it. I guess the mod will be fine for my level of incompetence. There is some good mtn biking trails near where I am and I'm sure one wouldn't have to search too far to find some rocks to play on... natural generally is harder to ride though, right?

needabike: thanks... it looks nice, but I was (potentially) offered an echo crontrol frame, forks, brakes and possibly bar/stem for about Aus$300. Seems too good a deal to pass up if it comes through.

[AgrAde]

buy eet

[Nathan]

natural generally is harder to ride though, right?
Yeah, but once you have natty experience, you'll start carving up on street...

[Gronk]

I took the ol' raceline rhino mod out in the bush and wow did I ever suck! It's sooo much harder than I thought it would be. I picked what looked like easy enough lines, but just couldn't get anything done. I need my straight lines, 90deg angles and flat concrete surfaces!