NSW State Titles - Jan 14 2007

[Macbeth]

Dear All,

Here are the details for the NSW State Biketrials Titles. AK and I are putting some serious effort into this one, and it promises to be a ripper.

NSW State Biketrials Titles 2006-2007
Hosted by Manly Warringah MTB Club and City Bike Depot

Sunday January the 14th
Arcadia - Peebles Rd.
Directions here - http://www.mwmtb.com/xc%20location.htm

Registration - 9:00 till 9:45
Entry Fee - $20 entry, plus $15 day license for non-mtba members
Rider Briefing - 9:45 til 10:00
Novice and Sport Competition - 10:00 till 1:00
Elite Competition - 1:30 till 4:00
Presentations - 4:30

Novice sections will be set with all bicycles and riders in mind and will not require riders to need to hop or balance in a stationary position.

City Bike Depot also have a demonstrator model of their entry level Echo Pure that will be available for novice riders to test ride in sections during the comp.

There will be cool prizes for all podium makers, plus spot prizes on the day thanks to City Bike Depot and Serfas. :D

Manly Warringah MTB Club will have their barbeque cranking and there'll be cold drinks for sale. Gonna be hot in January though.

Mark it in the calendar now..... Hope to see you all there to decide our first proper Champions :D

Adam

[mmaattuu]

Awesome!

see ya there!

[Gaz]

Fantastic. I'm there. Looking forward to it.

[jda]

I'll be there bitches!

[gillyboy]

looking forward to it. score of 75 is on:run:

[Peace]

will there be cold BEER?>!?>! ;)

sounds sweet adam! already marked that day off in the roster :)

thanks.

[peted]

might be able to make that one:x:
Pete

[Macbeth]

Peace, there may well be cold beer for the presentations..... I'll keep you posted ;)

Pete, it would be great to see you there, it's been a while.....

[Macbeth]

Had a few requests from interstate guys about places to stay for this comp.... I'm sure a few of the Sydney guys could put you up, but we are all more than an hour from the comp site......

Check out http://www.duralvillage.com.au/ as it is super close and looks ok....

[tomacropod]

As it turns out I do have the time off Adam, but I will be in the middle of rural Victoria on a long and lonesome road. Sorry.

- Joel

[GarthMc]

I'll prolly be there. I should be able to fit a couple of people in and take one person to the comp....

-Garth

[Dave1]

hey all
im thinking about coming to this trial at arcadia and ive never competed before. i have been riding for several years though. i was wondering what the standard is for a sport section? whats involved in the section? and how many sections and laps etc.
thanks

[jda]

I rode sport at the last Arcadia comp, there were a couple of hard lines, a 45 degree off camber rock roll down thing and a 4 foot drop. The rest was just tech lines, some basic roll ups, no big pedal ups or taps required, all nice and low to the ground.

[DMofo]

im coming, and im bringing a couple of friends, 1 who is quite intrested in trials, so you experts make a good impression.

[alexm]

I'll know what's happening after January 5.

[Macbeth]

hey all
im thinking about coming to this trial at arcadia and ive never competed before. i have been riding for several years though. i was wondering what the standard is for a sport section? whats involved in the section? and how many sections and laps etc.
thanks

Great to see another new face.... Welcome Dave.

The sport level is pretty high I would say, compared to National level comps. It really suits the guys that are riding it now though, if that makes sense. The bet thing to do would be to come along and check the sections out and make up your mind then.... I promise sections will be fun though like last time....

PLEASE COME ALEX :D

[alexm]

I know I owe it to you guys so I'll do my best. In the meantime I'll have to learn to ride rocks.

Thanks for organising it Adam.

[stocktrials]

i might be able to make this one

[Dave1]

hey
thanks for the help. i was thinking that i basicallly have to ride sport because novice would be to easy anyway. im doing 5 foot drops fairly easy and im sure they arent required in novice... but i dont think im up for elite yet. i hopefully should be there.
thanks

[jda]

Should be some serious competiton in sport, I here ben benny is riding sport too.

[cjm102]

Hey guy's,

I've decidid to come along, just interested.... do we have to pre enter or do we just turn up on the day?

Cheers

Chris

[Povi]

so if i want to go watch some trials what do i pay? 20 plus the 15 for not being a member???or nothing???i dont follow......

[alexm]

If you are coming to watch it will cost you nothing at all, definately come, I'm sure it will be worth while and educational. There will be some fantastic riders there for sure!

[jda]

Hey guy's,

I've decidid to come along, just interested.... do we have to pre enter or do we just turn up on the day?

Cheers

Chris

Chris, just turn up on the day between 9am & 9:45am to register.


Povi, if you have a hardtail then you should come and ride novice.

[Macbeth]

No need to pre-enter, just rock up on the day..... Spectating is free, though I'd encourage everyone that owns a bike to have a crack at Novice class..... Gonna be fun.... And you can win stuff.... :D

[gillyboy]

i have heaps of room at mine if anyone needs a couch to sleep on, i could take three comfortably and four if there is any couples who want to snuggle on the futon :love: i don't have a car to take anyone to the comp though. so ill be relying on someone to drive me:x: .

[gillyboy]

so if i want to go watch some trials what do i pay? 20 plus the 15 for not being a member???or nothing???i dont follow......

I reckon you should come and enter novice

[Povi]

sure mate!
:ugh2:
i havent even got my bike yet....

hopefully i can come down and watch. THAT WOULD BE SWELL!
but its a bit far away from my house and i cant drive yet....

we will have to see

[Macbeth]

I'll have the CBD demo Pure out there if you wanna ride that..... That's what it's for....

[peted]

If any one needs a lift give me a call, i'll probably be heading from sutho.
0409003650
Pete

[peted]

oh yeh, this makes 100 posts
sorry had to do that!

[Macbeth]

I just hit 1000 with the post before Pete :D

[Macbeth]

Have had a few emails, mostly from novice riders, about rules....

The NSW State Biketrials Series is run to MTBA rules, which are a slightly modified version of the UCI rules.... Here's a link to the full Australian rules: http://www.biketrialsaustralia.com/Pages/Calenders/MTBA-Trials-Rules-ver-final.pdf

If anyone has any questions just PM me.......

[Gaz]

One question about the rules, section 6 says " If a section is completed with a total of 4 penalty points, then the rider recieves a score of 3 for that section. " Does that mean that if you have 4 dabs you actually get 3 (i.e. the 4th dab doesn't count?). If so why?

[jda]

One question about the rules, section 6 says " If a section is completed with a total of 4 penalty points, then the rider recieves a score of 3 for that section. " Does that mean that if you have 4 dabs you actually get 3 (i.e. the 4th dab doesn't count?). If so why?

Yeah thats right, its called a dirty 3 (if you get 4 dabs), I guess it helps keep your scores lower?

[Macbeth]

That's a rule carried over from BIU rules..... Basically it gives the rider a free dab a 3 they can use as a strategic dab. Generally it is called 'dirty 3'..... You'll notice there has never been a 4 on any of our score cards.....

[GarthMc]

I think the idea behind it's introduction was that it distiguishes better between riders that actually make it through a section, and those that "five out"

EG Rider one 5's just after he gets out of the gate then gets a 3 in his next section. Rider 2 makes it through 2 sections with 4 dabs in each. Same number of dabs, But who is the better rider? With the Drity three rule rider two gets 6 points and his efforts are recognised as better :)

-Garth

[Macbeth]

That's a very well conceived answer Garth.....

[Peace]

what?

keke

[gillyboy]

What sort of sections are there going to be on the weekend? do you need anything for sections, ie pallets, tyres, wooden planks etc.... or is it all going to be natural? i have some stuff lying around at home if we need it......:dunno:

[Gaz]

How is everyone getting there? I can give one person a lift...

[stocktrials]

That's a rule carried over from BIU rules..... Basically it gives the rider a free dab a 3 they can use as a strategic dab. Generally it is called 'dirty 3'..... You'll notice there has never been a 4 on any of our score cards.....

...you'll also notice there are no 0's on them either... HAHAHAAHAHAHA
i know you made a mistake adam..oops!

[Povi]

i cant go anymore :(:wtc:
im going away for holidays on that weekend

have fun guys
may the best man/woman win!

[Peace]

ha, just realised that i get my licence back on sunday! (fuck yeah) im drivin the fuckin hilux right down to the rocks this time, clean up some wildlife (and small children) on the way!

Peace

p.s. i haven't ridden since canberra i think... go easy on the sections :hs:

[Macbeth]

You're going to die Peace :D

[Peace]

i hate you :squint:

hey who knows the way there and wants to join me? I got lost last time.

[Macbeth]

AK and I have dibs on riding with you Peace....... :D

[Macbeth]

Hi Guys,

Just a couple of days out from the comp..... Course is looking nice. Just a couple of things before we get cracking.

It's more than likely going to be hot as hell. AK and I were out there all day yesterday and it was 37 degrees. I've had a look at the BOM site and it says it's gonna be 24 with a couple of showers on sunday, but I'd be prepared for a cracker. There'll be loads of cold drinks out there, but I'd bring a lot of water anyways and some sun screen (or zinc if you are Simon:D)

Other than that we are ready to rock, just got a couple of things to do on saturday, like mowing the carpark and shit, but that's easy......

Catch you all sunday,

Adam

[Hooha]

Comp was sick, huge novice turnout and even a few more sports riders in the mix now.

Think we need to think about another class as the gap from novice to sport has become pretty big, maybe make sport easier and elite slightly harder than sport with Pro being the hardest line??

Any comments?

[fatnold]

i showed up for novice. had a lot of fun. props to all involved in running the comp and to all the guys who took the time to answer my questions and give me some pointers. it was great to watch the skills in the sport and the elite classes, serious bravery!
i'm keen to work on that style of riding. i guess i'll start with my street bike and then move onto a real trials bike if i feel like i'm progressing.

i've got to say, it's a major jump from novice to sports class!!!!!! it seems like there is room for an expert class in there somewhere!!!!!

[Gaz]

Great comp guys. Thanks to all who put it together. Really looked pro too. Looking forward to seeing the pics.

I think what Damo said makes sense. I think the jump from novice to sport is too big and makes it really tough to move up (props to Pete and Jas for giving it a go) and the moves required to even complete a section too advanced (not to mention the fear factor of some of those drops (props to Pete Again)) I think if sport was a little easier and then elite and pro were above that it would be better. That said if that was an elite course, I can only imagine what pro is like.

All in all a very fun day though.

[Povi]

sounded like a good comp......
i cant wait to see the pictures seeing as i was away having fun with my family all weekend :ugh2:

[dylan]

yeah, wish i coulda made it. hope someone got some video.. any results?

[aykay]

Thanks to everyone that came out and made it a top day. Saw some very good riding in all classes by men and women as well.

How many riders were there all up macbeth? i think its probably our biggest turnout yet, which is definately a good thing

[gillyboy]

great comp, well organised- thanks to the Adams! if we get a turnout like that surely we can incorporate a another class? It does mean more work for the organisers but each comp i have been to has been bigger and bigger each time so numbers shouldn't be a prob. And if Sport and Elite become easier with an introduction of a Pro or Expert class, then the likes of JD Owen and damien can move up. You may only have 2 or 3 riders in that top pro class but i assume you would ride them at the same time as elite. Which would be good for the riders and spectators. I suppose the other option is to create a beginner class and make novice harder with some drops and ups? but i think the idea of a pro or expert class better. anyway great comp guys and thanks to everone involved both riders and organisers :wiggle:

[jonus]

Any results?

[jda]

Just want to say that the comp was awesome, really pro organisation and the sections were set up very nice. 5 big JD thumbs up to all the organisers :bigthumb:

There is a problem with sport class being too hard for some and novice being too easy for others. I think we should have novice and sport run in the morning and have an expert and elite class run in the afternoon. This will enable us to drop the level a bit in sport and help those riding novice now progress to the next level. For the expert class you could leave it mostly the same as elite but take a few of the big/harder moves out and leave a few in.

I don't think there should be a class called pro because because nobody is pro and it confuses riders coming in from other disciplines, keep it standard novice/sport/expert/elite.

[Nathan]

I was just thinking... If were too short on numbers to run 4 class's. I think I'd just make sport a little easier. It'd encourage the top Sport riders to move up to Elite, and the top novice riders into Sport.
Personally I found Novice way to easy. But there was no way I would have made it through any of the Sport sections with anything less than a 5.
If sport didnt have those huge drops (like section 2) I would have definatelly entered in sport.
The other thing to do is maybe just make novice harder... put in some ups, and drops... The less experienced riders can always dab to get though.

Anyways, I wanna say cheers to Macbeth, AK, CBD, M-W MTB, the Observers (I know you enjoyed it Sam!!!) and everyone else who put in a top effort and made it such a good comp! Awesome prizes too! :naughty:

[DMofo]

great comp had alot of fun, even though on every section i only made it to gate 3 and then fived!!

It would be great if sport was easier either that or could we try and stick some rockets on our bikes and get through the sections with loads of power. (old endro rule, when in doubt, power out)

[Mitch]

it was a good comp, great weather and great turn up.
one guy made a day trip and came down from Queensland for the comp with his 2 kids. the youngest person entering was a 9 year old boy on a 16-inch trials bike, he did pretty well for his age!

[Macbeth]

I'll post a results/ideas thread tonight.... I've pretty much been asleep since sunday afternoon......

[BSA]

well done to everyone who came out for he comp, dont forget your big BANNA LEGS :joshers:

[Nathan]

dont forget your big BANNA LEGS :joshers:
:werd:
I was waiting for someone to say that! I just didnt want to be the first!
I tried putting some pics of Expert up on my photobucket but it didnt work.
Anyone wanna host them? About 25 pics, I made the file size a bit smaller...
Got a good sequence shot of Sam doing that big gap in Section 3 before he nailed himself! Can email them if interested... PM me...

[Nathan]

Got some pics to upload...
http://s103.photobucket.com/albums/m159/high-on-octane/Trials%20State%20Champs/
Let me know if it doesnt work...

[stocktrials]

awesome pics nath. i got to it first

[Gaz]

Great Pics Nathan. Seem to be backwards though.... As in the order. When you go next you get the shot before the photo you were looking at rather than after.

[GarthMc]

Great Pics Nathan. Seem to be backwards though.... As in the order. When you go next you get the shot before the photo you were looking at rather than after.

Yeah I got the same thing, not to worry, some good pics non the less.

So does Sam make this gap? An the to the next gate/rock?
http://i103.photobucket.com/albums/m159/high-on-octane/Trials%20State%20Champs/DSCF1628.jpg

-Garth

[Mitch]

sam makes the gap but dosent make the next marker.

[owen]

That comp was seriously awesome! :h5: Very well organised, great sections, good prizes, great turnout etc etc. I agree with JD, slot another class in above sport I reckon. It is always difficult to keep everyone happy though...

[owen]

Ohh I forgot to say, I got some great footage, and will put together another small vid when I get a chance. Kinda in between houses now so might not be for a few weeks.

[SLB]

My pooey pics...
http://www.sydneytrials.com/images/Arcadia2/

Nathan and I must have been standing next to each other holding hands when we took the pics of Sam gapping:dunno:

Great comp. My best in a while....

[Nathan]

Rad Photo's Simon!

[Peace]

nice one simon!