ATTN: Mr.Peanut

[mistri@l]

i was at the shop today again replacing the wrong size spokes
What was the size they ended up cutting for you???
if you know the measuremeant thatd be illin

king classic on dx32 24"
spoke calculators are useless for this wheel combo

they had given me
241 and 242? i think
and it was to short

[Mr_Penut]

had to get them custom cut

can't remember size

[Acolyte]

QBP says:

King Classic to 24" eyeletted DX32, 36h, 3x
Drive Side:237
Non-Drive:241

[mistri@l]

QBP says:

King Classic to 24" eyeletted DX32, 36h, 3x
Drive Side:237
Non-Drive:241

241 and 242 didnt work
241 was drive i beleive and it was a very tight fit.
i need longer non drive
see those spoke calculator sites dont help me much

[Acolyte]

Well, qbp is a big US distributor, and they've never wronged me. Odd...

[manimal]

is it 36h or 32h? because that makes a difference.

[pan man]

penuts wheels were a fucking pain in the ass to build up, especially the night before racoon ralley. After the wheels were laced up, I found out that the custom cut spokes were too long, so I had to unlace them, cut them, rethread them, and relace them, and then true them. Oh god that was a nightmare. I don't remember the measurements at all, all I remember is working frantically until 11 pm, with Jack yelling at me because he wanted to close down the store and go home.:rant:

[Mr_Penut]

LOL

come back to me mr domi

[Mr_Penut]

I <3 you :love:

[Soapster887]

Forgot the #1 Rule. Measure Twice, Cut once.

[mistri@l]

is it 36h or 32h? because that makes a difference.
im not that dense
thanks trev :wuteva:

[mistri@l]

penuts wheels were a fucking pain in the ass to build up, especially the night before racoon ralley. After the wheels were laced up, I found out that the custom cut spokes were too long, so I had to unlace them, cut them, rethread them, and relace them, and then true them. Oh god that was a nightmare. I don't remember the measurements at all, all I remember is working frantically until 11 pm, with Jack yelling at me because he wanted to close down the store and go home.:rant:

sounds about what im in for
that was me the night before OTS riggin up my bike too.
but ya it is a pain finding spokes

[pan man]

soapster,

you dont "measure" spoke length, you calculate it, we used the wheelsmith chart and dt swiss spoke calculator, but they are off sometimes, and you need to make adjustments.. adjustments are just a pain in the ass when you have to cut your own spokes, because then you have to rethread then, etc etc

[manimal]

im not that dense
thanks trev :wuteva:

yea, but you never stated that in your original post.. so I thought it'd be nice for you to specify.. might help you get the right size spokes and then ride london damnit

[mistri@l]

Well, qbp is a big US distributor, and they've never wronged me. Odd...

what is the website?

[rush]

SEND A FUCKING PM!/ tankrizzo

[Pandonut]

http://www.dtswiss.com

Go to "Spoke Calculator" Enter "anonymous" and it brings up a great spoke calc program. You can choose from a list of defined parts, or enter your own information (for example, The king classic hubs are there, but you'll have to type in the erd for the rim. BTI-USA has the ERD for the 24" dx32 as 495mm.)

Enter all this, and if you're running straight gauge spokes with a 3x pattern, You get 235mm for the drive side, and 238 for the non drive side.

I've used this program before, and it's been accurate. By the way, you can run +/- 5mm on spokes. Hope this helps.

Also, i've had to custom cut spokes before too. It sucks. I feel your pain.

[tomacropod]

uuummm, +/- 2mm is probably better. I wouldn't ride or build a wheel with 4 or 5mm too long/short spokes.

I use this spoke calculator, I can add my own hubs and rims to it and the database is much bigger. Also does strange spoke patterns, offset rims etc:

http://www.sheldonbrown.com/rinard/spocalc.xls

- Joel

[Mr_Penut]

I <3 you all

[Mr_Penut]

marry me

[mistri@l]

http://www.dtswiss.com

Go to "Spoke Calculator" Enter "anonymous" and it brings up a great spoke calc program. You can choose from a list of defined parts, or enter your own information (for example, The king classic hubs are there, but you'll have to type in the erd for the rim. BTI-USA has the ERD for the 24" dx32 as 495mm.)

Enter all this, and if you're running straight gauge spokes with a 3x pattern, You get 235mm for the drive side, and 238 for the non drive side.

I've used this program before, and it's been accurate. By the way, you can run +/- 5mm on spokes. Hope this helps.

Also, i've had to custom cut spokes before too. It sucks. I feel your pain.

Im a douche on that program
but anyways those are the correct sizes u got of the calculator???

[Pandonut]

Well, according to the calculator, yea, my numbers are right. BUT I don't have a king classic hub and dx32 24" just sitting around, so i can't verify it. In your original post, you said that 241 and 242 were too short? so i can only assume that my numbers are REALLY wrong.

Tomac, yes, +/- 2mm is probably a LOT better. In fact, +/- 0mm is my optimal working parameters, but when trying to convince the owner of a shop whose just trying to make a sale that what they have isn't exactly what you're looking for, I find it's a battle not worth fighting. I no longer work in a shop, so if i want to use a rack and some tools at any of the shops i frequent, i need to be a bit more compliant and respectful.

[mistri@l]

Well, according to the calculator, yea, my numbers are right. BUT I don't have a king classic hub and dx32 24" just sitting around, so i can't verify it. In your original post, you said that 241 and 242 were too short? so i can only assume that my numbers are REALLY wrong.

Tomac, yes, +/- 2mm is probably a LOT better. In fact, +/- 0mm is my optimal working parameters, but when trying to convince the owner of a shop whose just trying to make a sale that what they have isn't exactly what you're looking for, I find it's a battle not worth fighting. I no longer work in a shop, so if i want to use a rack and some tools at any of the shops i frequent, i need to be a bit more compliant and respectful.

241 and 241 ended up being right after all
after relacing it 101023 times
it finally came together

[Pandonut]

As long as it comes together in the end, that's all that matters!