ARG! what should my next frame be!

[mistri@l]

!WARNING THIS THREAD MIGHT NOT MAKE ANY SENSE!

i know i already have a thread goin on this sort of thing
it is just driving me nuts to chose a frame!
the only reason i considerd the czar is because of the sale price
same with what ken has at his sale.
but in regardes to what im lookin for the simtra seems to be nice
for trials and some urban style of riding as well
in regardes to my riding
this season id like to spend alot of time riding rocks and natural i want to improve on those skills alot
i like urban but i get bored of flat to flat gaps pretty quick
only so much you can do with that shit.
but i could spend a whole day in a pile of rocks.
so am i making the right choice if i go with the simtra?
i mean the reason i trust the geomtry
is because the way adam myers rides and matty v8 i know they had input on the design of this thing and what theyd like to look for
and matty v8 style is something ive always looked up to in riding.
im starting the convince myself now hahaha
anyways
simtra a go?

[eturt9]

where are teh czars at a sale price?

[darkside]

Just buy the simtra. Sounds like it's what you want anyway.

Czar does not match your intended riding style.

[rush]

Just buy the simtra. Sounds like it's what you want anyway.

Czar does not match your intended riding style.

Czar doesnt work for natural? :ugh2:

I guess Zebdis dont either?


Simtra sounds great dude, do it.

[darkside]

Of course the Czar works for natural, but he keeps talking about urban/street style riding too.

[BenR]

Just get a bike, it wouln't make much difference: eventually you will adjust. I don't see why a bike that you can do big natty on you couldn't do big urban, unless when you say urban you mean tailwhips, manuals and shit. Vincent, Dani, all the great riders they don't have different bikes in a comp if one section is natty and another is urban. If you can do a sidehop on dirt to a rock, I don't see why you can't do a sidehop from the street to a wall with the same bike. :dunno:

[dingus]

http://www.raleighusa.com/images/items/Road/full/2007/R07-RushHourPro-f.jpg

[jesleepark]

also take a look at Zhi Z1 frames and the aorta frames ther about the same geo and they cost less

[mistri@l]

Just get a bike, it wouln't make much difference: eventually you will adjust. I don't see why a bike that you can do big natty on you couldn't do big urban, unless when you say urban you mean tailwhips, manuals and shit. Vincent, Dani, all the great riders they don't have different bikes in a comp if one section is natty and another is urban. If you can do a sidehop on dirt to a rock, I don't see why you can't do a sidehop from the street to a wall with the same bike. :dunno:

tru that tru that
ya i do mean tail whips
nose pick stall moves
i like to be creative doing urban
like i said flat to flat gaps get boring
so i like to mix it up when i ride urban.
simtra seems to the choice

i donno about the aorta
seems like they were designed for small azn riders
reminds me of hte caisso lol

[carnagr]

Just because Matty V8 is a good rider doesn't mean the Simtra is good for spinning. It's not, believe me. It's a long, low, hardcore trials frame. The bike he was riding before (Tibo I believe) was definitely better for all his spinny moves and stuff. Obvisouly the simtra taps better and things like that, but it does not spin as well.

[mistri@l]

Just because Matty V8 is a good rider doesn't mean the Simtra is good for spinning. It's not, believe me. It's a long, low, hardcore trials frame. The bike he was riding before (Tibo I believe) was definitely better for all his spinny moves and stuff. Obvisouly the simtra taps better and things like that, but it does not spin as well.

i know
i just thought mabe since he and myers had a say in the geo
theyd throw some of there stylings in
that sucks that it isnt as manoverable as i was hoping it would be

[carnagr]

Well you know what the geo is. It's the same as every other trials bike. Yes, they are all different, but not by much. CS - 370-390, WB - 1050-1100, BB - 0-+20, and you've got yourself a standard low BB trials frame. The Simtra fits right in there.

[justfuzzit]

simtra, The new BT, I love my simtra so far. Strong stiff and light.

[jtrials]

Go witha simtra st1 amazing frame for it's price. And matty v does use it !!!

[hello?]

dont get the czar if your gonna want to be doing natural riding...or urban riding. I tried a czar tonight and it felt like the biggest piece of shit ever. feels like you cant get any power out of moves and you dont feel connected to the ground/bike. Go with the simtra...especially if your a shorter rider(dunno if you are). I rode one for a little while until i got my limey and the geo of the simtra felt pretty good only downfall was it was too short for me(6'4)...plus its a very solid frame...so go with the simtra

[ronan_zj]

Thats why ECHO goes to low BB again.

[mistri@l]

dont get the czar if your gonna want to be doing natural riding...or urban riding. I tried a czar tonight and it felt like the biggest piece of shit ever. feels like you cant get any power out of moves and you dont feel connected to the ground/bike. Go with the simtra...especially if your a shorter rider(dunno if you are). I rode one for a little while until i got my limey and the geo of the simtra felt pretty good only downfall was it was too short for me(6'4)...plus its a very solid frame...so go with the simtra

yeah i want that low secure feeling to the ground
im like 6'1
i notice tall people on high bb bikes look so akward on two wheels
i wanna be comftarable so ican throw the bike around.

[carnagr]

For all I have been saying about the Simtra, which makes it sound bad. That's not true at all. I have one, and I love it. However, if you want to ride like park, or street, that is not possible to do on the Simtra. Hence why I shall be getting a BMX soon (hopefully).

[manimal]

yeah i want that low secure feeling to the ground
im like 6'1
i notice tall people on high bb bikes look so akward on two wheels
i wanna be comftarable so ican throw the bike around.

thats why I kept suggest the echo pure or control to you... and they're cheap which means you can get one sooner and ride sooner!

[Bryan]

I suggest the echo control to you.

:werd:

[manimal]

:werd:

for $450 canadian.. seems like a sweet deal.. especially since its so close to the geo desired..