Weight difference - STP vs Trials bike

[Weetbix]

Hey guys, Im trying to convince my mate that it will be difficult to do trials on a stp, and one of the main reasons is the weight.

Any of you guys know the weight differences or have anything to say to him?

[CaM]

Hey John, I own a Giant STP1, have had it for about a year now, its a good bike if your into dirt jumping and street riding, and off-road but for trials, I would just get a dedicated trials bike. Its so much easier to do trials moves on a trials bike. The STP1 is heavier then a trials bike, probably about 3-4kg over the average stock trials bike.
Tell your friend if he wants to ride trials then buy a trials bike, because a STP wasn't built for those kinds of moves.

[Giant1118]

has nothing to do with weight and everything to do with geometry

[thisthingz]

agreed with giant, geom is diff weight will make a difference but not even near the difference geometry will make, it depends if hes starting to learn trials or if hes already into it, if hes already into it get a trials specific bike if not then stick with the stp for a little while

[rush]

^^^

Yep.

[rocpyro]

Its not that you can't do trials on an STP, just if thats wwhat you wanna do w/ it, then you should get a trials-specific bike. If he wants to do all sorts of riding, and maybe a lil beginner urban trials, the STP would be fine.

[Gaz]

I have an STP2 and have been using it for trials for less than 6 months. While it is a great bike for the price it is rubbish for trials. For begining and practising things like track stands, bunny hops, wheely drops etc it is fine but anything above that gets very hard to do on it, very quickly.

The main problems I have with mine when using it for trials is the geometry, slack steering angle makes slow speed stuff hard, low bottom bracket and long chain stays make rear wheel stuff very hard, the suspension fork, the brakes, the short stem..... etc.

After using mine for trials for 3-4 months I am getting a dedicated trials bike (echo pure) as I am at the stage where i feel the bike is holding me back so much.

[rocpyro]

Well......
I can japslap and gap on mine too. Can do pivot moves and some front wheel moves. Keep in mind that I have a 150mm Z-1 on it too(and pretty strong brakes)! Great training bike when my trials is out of commision. Surges are soooo hard!!!!



Keep in mind this is all urban, as I wouldnt dream of using this beast on natural!

[AgrAde]

weight doesn't matter that much really, i had a small XC frame for a trials bike when i first started, and it was about 19lb for a while. it was still absolutely terrible to ride and it wasn't easy to do any power moves on it. my echo is about 7lb heavier and it's incredible how much lighter it feels when you're actually riding it.