Echo Team Mod-Chris King

[orangeguy]

Hi Folks,

Anybody want to trade my mod for a stock bike? My mod is the older style of Echo Team. It has an Alex/Chris King rear wheel, Monty cranks, Magura disc up front, HS-33 in the rear, stainless lines, locking grips, etc. The bike rides GREAT, but i just want to get back on stock bike.

I had the rear brake mounts helicoiled (at a cost of $30 per helicoil....$120 for this modification alone.)

Anyway, I am wanting to get back onto a stock bike. I am looking for either a Zebdi or an ES2 (I know....old school). If nobody wants to trade, are there any offers? I can email pictures to interested people.

porschepilot62 AT hotmail DOT com.

Thanks, Mike

[ronan_zj]

wow, you just bought this bike a few month ago from other ppl.

[orangeguy]

i've owned it for 5 months. prior to that i had an ES2

[orangeguy]

here are the specs:

03 echo mod frame
Brisa Bar and stem
Chris King rear hub
Monty front hub
Monty Cranks
Magura Julie front disc
HS33 rear brakes
Threshold booster
Extra skid plate
Extra brake pads
Zoo fork
stainless lines


1016 wheel base

i bought this back in may from PSouth440....i'm sure he can attest to how nice this bike is.

[orangeguy]

should i part this thing? any interest in parts of it?

[rush]

Definitely interested in rear brakes. $$?

[toyota200x]

I would wait a while longer before you decided to part it out.

[trialsrider50]

I wouldn't. sell me that king hub. It's a king bmx right?

[orangeguy]

it's a king bmx....i believe it's around $400 from webcyclery. anyway, i am gonna wait a bit longer in case somebody wants to buy the bike outright or trade. i have a list of PM's from people wanting the hub......

[mekanic305]

Pictars?

[orangeguy]

i'll get them up tomorrow....this thing is generating enough interest now that emailing them is getting to be a pain.

[beastoftheeast]

off topic of the sale- i just read about helicoils...very interesting. it makes the mounts stronger? can you notice any difference? the frame im supposed to buying off my friend when i actully have time to build it has a striped mount on the bash. i think i'll helicoil it? where did you go to get you mounts helicoiled? i might do it myself but i dont want to mess up :noes:

[orangeguy]

Hi Calvin,

Helicoiling is a wonderful process that really increases the lifespan on threaded fittings. I don't understand why frame manufacturers don't do it, considering the cost of these frames. The initial production cost would be extremely low, and I'm sure warranty-loss money saved by it would pay for it.

Helicoiling is a process where a steel insert is screwed into a metal base. The base can be any metal, but it seems like the most common use is in aluminum. Screwing an aluminum set screw into an aluminum base is a recipe for disaster. It may save a few milligrams of weight, but the strength gained from using steel (especially considering how light a small bolt is) outweighs any benefit of using aluminum. Of course, after helicoiling a stripped out thread, you always want to used a steel bolt. (avoid metal corrosion/fusion from aluminum to steel)

I had access to some multi-million dollar machining equipment, but i'm sure that you could do it by yourself. if it's already stripped out, what's to lose? Check out a place like Fastenal to see if they have helicoils.

Can i notice any difference? well, whenever you thread a helicoiled bolt, it threads just like a regular fastener....no worry about stripping soft threads of aluminum. It's completely strong....if the government uses it on million dollar space satellites (what the machine shop i had access does), then it should be ok for a trials bike.

give it a try....you'll be surprised.

mike

[orangeguy]

...and just to sum it up: somebody could always drill out and re-tap an aluminum thread, but you will probably strip it again. the benefit of helicoiling is increasing strength and longevity of the repair. steel is stronger than aluminum.

[jtrials]

About how much are you looking for i will pay casha nd please post some pics.

[orangeguy]

sold it! thanks for the interest! :-)