Need a do it all bike

[MTB2TRIALS]

I just moved to a place where the MTB trails are pretty far and have been thinking about getting back into some trials riding. The thing is I want a bike that I could still trail/freeride with. How would a Specialized P.? be for trials? Or any "urban" bike for that matter? I know I am showing some ignorance here but f-it, I want to know

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[Ericthefishbiker]

giant stps are pretty cool. my friend had one with a 22 32 bashrong and a rigid fork but id just get a trials bike

[rocpyro]

Theres a reason we have multiple bikes, dude, every bike has a purpose, and ranging from trail riding to trials riding is getting a little too broad. If yor gonna have one bike, though, the Giant STP is very good. I have one, and its pretty versatile. But I also have another bike for trials. :wiggle:

[woony]

I've got an STP and its good for everything, used to do DJ's, some DH, and a bit of hucking on it. Its also good to learn trials and street stuff on. But if you're gonna take trials a bit most seriously you'll have to get a trials bike like i'm doing now.

[carnagr]

I'd say get a street/trials bike, and a freeride/jumping bike. One bike will end up sucking for all of those things.

[Jackhammer]

Zebdi/Ghost or a Moment with an 80mm susupension fork will be as close as you'll get.

[Ottawa_biker]

go with the ghost they look so nice

[literocola]

I have a Fisher GED, and works well for my "everything" bike (commuter, urban, big drop, hard hitter) But when it comes to trials... its not so user friendly. I do the "basics", but when you get with the more techinical skills, its not so easy.
Get me da Echo Hi-Fi and its on.
If your lookin for a trials bike, go with a trials bike.
If you want a urban/dirt/trail bike.. get a P series, STP, Chase.. etc. etc.

[Specialeded]

P frames are terrible xc bikes. If you are going downhill with alot of berms and turns they are fun on account of the very low bottom bracket and short stays, but the top tube is also very...well, short. Better left to urban riding and hucking off things as the frame weighs a ton, but is built indestructable. By urban I mean more like dirtjumping, park, and street. They are terrible at most everything else. Stp's fall into somewhat of the same category, but are a little better for trials. Buy two bikes and call it a day.

[Juhan]

i thought i could do it all with one bike, street and trials. well, i got a GT ruckus 3.0 in the beginning, rode some trials, and some streeet and broke the rear disc tab twice. then i got another frame for streety trials, and well, running a suspension fork will most definetly hold you back when learning trials, i mean, it really puts limits on what you can or can't do, the same with street. Then i got a planetxpitbull with 24" wheels and a dirtjumper III, it was an awesome street bike for half a year, but then i decided fuck it, and replaced it with a zoo python, I've never been more dedicated to riding before, i can do so much on this bike.

the point is, that if you think that you can do it all on a single bike and don't want to get a trials bike, then you're wrong, get a street bike or a trials bike, you can't get them both wiuthout having two bikes.

[PXride]

my px jack flash doesn't up like my trials bike but that's not to say it can't up or gap at all, just not as much and i certainly ride it too and down some downhill trails so it is possible in my eyes, but it really depends how far into trials you want to take your street riding. everyone is giving their opinion as fact, the truth is you need to determine EXACTLY what YOU want to do with it, test ride some STP's, ghosts, etc and see if they fit what you are lookign for.

[silus]

If you go for the STP, make sure its the STP 2. The frames look alike, but the 2 and 3 have extra bracing at the bottom bracket. Just take a look. Also, the STP comes with basically a 0mm stem, so change that out. And make sure you change those street tires. At least for the back.

Also, if you are on a budget like I was, get the Shimano silent clutch/wheel set. Its like 90 bucks. From there, just slowly start upgrading your rear brake. I still dont have the mony, but i'm looking to get XTR lever and housing, and Avid Ultimate brake arms. All i have so far are Plazmatic CRVs.

Its a decent commuter. Could be better if it wasnt for that huge fork.

I've always wondered how a pro like Vincent would ride something like the STP...i'd pay to see that.

[willbed]

There's no such thing as a perfect bike for everything, but :

I've ridden the P3 a few times in the past, really did not like the geometry on that thing...

Apparently the STP is indeed quite nice,

KOXX have the Code frame, which they brand as a «non specific» trials frame.
1060 ish wheelbase / 400mm chainstays / 0 BB
This is what I use for my urban / park / trail bike, that's an awesome bike

A friend of mine, who started riding in Nelson BC, with Shawn Denny / Dylan Tremblay / Mike Kinrade and the crew, who's one of the best Hardtail DH locals here and who works on developing the sickest «underground» single track / technical DH trails at Mont SteAnne used to ride a Code. Many times he told me this frame was the closest to the perfect hardtail for his type of riding... Back then I was riding a 24 Le Toy, and was not involved with the distribution of KOXX in Canada...

If you can get your hands on one, I think that would be a nice option... just build it up accordingly...

[Juhan]

if you can get a hardtrail that has about 0 bbrise with a regular trials fork, short stays(385-400) and decend wheelbase and headangle you could ride both trials and street with it quite nicely, but it still wouldn't be as good as a real trials or street bike. but it would be as close as you'll ever get.