Sea Otter/Lovers Point pictures of Hans and Kenny (56k beware)

[jobottDMB]

Hans sent me some photos from the ride at Lovers Point. He gave me permission to post them here and only here. I thought you guys would like to see them. Photos, copywright, and courtesy of Flo Hagena, Bill Freeman, Sven Martin.


http://www.observedtrials.net/otn3/DSC_0037.jpg

http://www.observedtrials.net/otn3/DSC_0040.jpg

http://www.observedtrials.net/otn3/DSC_0109.jpg

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http://www.observedtrials.net/otn3/DSC_0177.jpg

http://www.observedtrials.net/otn3/DSC_0212_V2.jpg

http://www.observedtrials.net/otn3/hansandkenny_6929.jpg

http://www.observedtrials.net/otn3/kenny_6862.jpg

http://www.observedtrials.net/otn3/kenny_6894.jpg

http://www.observedtrials.net/otn3/smtb080406FH_0115.jpg

http://www.observedtrials.net/otn3/smtb080406FH_0154.jpg

http://www.observedtrials.net/otn3/smtb080406FH_0178.jpg

http://www.observedtrials.net/otn3/smtb080406FH_0179.jpg

http://www.observedtrials.net/otn3/smtb080406FH_0192.jpg

http://www.observedtrials.net/otn3/smtb080406FH_0196.jpg

http://www.observedtrials.net/otn3/smtb080406FH_0407.jpg

http://www.observedtrials.net/otn3/smtb080406FH_0420.jpg

http://www.observedtrials.net/otn3/smtb080406FH_0428.jpg

http://www.observedtrials.net/otn3/smtb080406FH_0507.jpg

http://www.observedtrials.net/otn3/smtb080406FH_0578.jpg

http://www.observedtrials.net/otn3/smtb080406FH_0646_tiff.jpg

http://www.observedtrials.net/otn3/smtb080406FH_0684_tiff.jpg


You guys can probably also thank Hans by going to his sites.
http://www.hansrey.com (http://javascript<b></b>:ol('http://www.hansrey.com');)
http://www.wheels4life.org (http://javascript<b></b>:ol('http://www.wheels4life.org');)

[toyota200x]

Seriously, those are the best pics ever.

[netto]

Seriously, those are the best pics ever.
TROOOOOOTH

[rush]

:bowdown:

Awesome pics, thanks for sharing them with us. :wiggle:

[muddyfox]

Absolutely brilliant !!!! Thanks :bigthumb:

[Trialsking]

Nice hookup Jon

[RT Wolf]

BALLS.

[silus]

Wow, very very nice pictures. Just one question, though.


Who had the video camera!?!

[firewrx612]

Fucking awesome!

[Noel]

The best pics to date.

[MegamoMidwest]

holy shit, I thought that gap Kenny was doing was big as is, and then he had to go and 180 it!

wow.

-Paul

[ChrisB]

nice pics man!

[Peace]

I agree with paul.... That move pwns!

Peace

[Peace]

Id also like to know what kenny is doing in that black and white photo.... front wheel from round light post??? :noes:

[jobottDMB]

Hans said that Kenny saw Leech doing 180s in his demo and Kenny had never tryed one while gapping or something. I think he landed it first try?

[trialsinhawaii]

Classic pics! Very nice. Old school meets new school.

[Peace]

Hans said that Kenny saw Leech doing 180s in his demo and Kenny had never tryed one while gapping or something. I think he landed it first try?

they arent very hard at all, just gotta commit to it! although big gaps at that height take a lot of balls and confidence!

Peace

[KenC]

Great pics. It's cool to see the current world champ riding with the world champ of years past.

[starass]

Its good to see Hans in action again. Very very nice pics.

[Dekes]

BEST PICS EVER !!!!! It's like God (rey) and jesus riding their bikes together.

yes kenny wants to blend in some ryan leech type riding in his demos, to make the sport more appealing to the audience.

[philth]

WOrd...those are the dog bollocks!!!

[stocktrials]

as hard as i try, i cannot put into words the high praise these photos deserve.

[RyanMcVicker]

:O:O:O:O

[mistri@l]

WOW
amazing camera work
amazing riding!
i cannot stop drooling
those are some nice pics!!
some nice riding! some danm nice riding!
musta been cool to see those two in action!

the best one is kenny and hans face to face haha

thanks for showin these off!

[Patrick]

sweet.. I'm sure these will make the pages of several Euro MTB mags.

I am surprised nobody got any video of this rare event.

Were there any trials riders at Sea Otter? How cool would it have been to hang with Leech, Kenny, and Hansy? ..then maybe organize a group ride..

[trauma100]

noice........ thanks!

[Patrick]

http://www.hansrey.com/photogallery/DSC_0094.jpg

[Rob.K]

as hard as i try, i cannot put into words the high praise these photos deserve.

:werd:

Not to mention the praise both of those GODLY riders deserve.

:bowdown:

[SubZero]

:wtf:damned good!
but who got the F.U.C.K.I.N' VID CAM??:wtf:
there must be a vid....pleeeeeeeease! :run:

Kenny pushed the BBB (BIG BALLS BUTTON) just before Ridin' :D

[Cryo-Cube]

Hans is still doing his thang dawg. You wouldn´t think it but he is still all over thze world
Mad props for a guy of his age.

http://si6.mtb-news.de/fotos/data/3100/fdm-5-2006.jpg
link (if the pic doesnt load)
http://si6.mtb-news.de/fotos/data/3100/fdm-5-2006.jpg

[Trialsking]

:wtf:damned good!
but who got the F.U.C.K.I.N' VID CAM??:wtf:
there must be a vid....pleeeeeeeease! :run:

Kenny pushed the BBB (BIG BALLS BUTTON) just before Ridin' :D

Zak Maeda got video footage but is waiting for a HD to edit the video. Bug and PM, ZMaeda if you want footage.

[Bren85]

Great Pics.

[WhiteRavenKS]

i was at the otter and never saw hans, kenny, or ryan once... i ran into pasty and jobot and mike for about 5 seconds each.

[AndyT]

wow...I was scrolling through the pictures thinking how horrible they were.


I must have been the only one.

[jobottDMB]

I think by good pictures people are referring to the fact that Kenny and Hans are in them. I have a feeling MOST of us aren't photographers let alone good photographers and don't know what a "good" picture entails. The pictures included makes the average viewer go "wow that looks cool" without going into any detail on the set up of the actual picture. Am I off base saying that? I just think the pictures are purdy.

[kyle]

They are truly awsome pics

[goose]

Thanx for posting those pics. They're quite good. I suggest you submit one of them to the NSMB photo contests, if you want. The one of Kenny doing a 180 gap is very impressive.

It's also really cool to see a trials bike right next to a regular mtb. I've never actually seen them right next to eachother. The Koxx looks SO long and low.

[giventofly]

My vote for best post of the year
Well done!
>right click >save as

[jobottDMB]

Thanx for posting those pics. They're quite good. I suggest you submit one of them to the NSMB photo contests, if you want. The one of Kenny doing a 180 gap is very impressive.

Notice these pictures aren't mine. I have credited the actual photographers in my first post. These photographers are Hans' and/or Kenny's professional (I'm assuming) photographers and this was a scheduled photo shoot. Hans just gave me permission to post them here because I figured a majority of the people here would like to see them.

[Rob.K]

I think by good pictures people are referring to the fact that Kenny and Hans are in them. I have a feeling MOST of us aren't photographers let alone good photographers and don't know what a "good" picture entails. The pictures included makes the average viewer go "wow that looks cool" without going into any detail on the set up of the actual picture. Am I off base saying that? I just think the pictures are purdy.

Indeed.

wow...I was scrolling through the pictures thinking how horrible they were.


I must have been the only one.

You've been reading the forums long enough to know that most of these people aren't refering to the quality of the picture, but rather who's in it.

[redworm]

andrew-

you're not the only one. the ones that i actually like are sven's. i guess im not cool cus i dont get a boner looking at meh-pictures like apparently everyone else.

-Kevin

[Rob.K]

andrew-

you're not the only one. the ones that i actually like are sven's. i guess im not cool cus i dont get a boner looking at meh-pictures like apparently everyone else.

-Kevin

Oh cry me a river. :wtc:

[stefan]

awesome to see HAns Rey i action again !
I love that !

of course, fisheye lens is bad...

stop saying Hans is old ! it's ridiculous ! He is just thruly passionnated , for z lifetime ! ( ehm, does this word exists ???)
most of us will stop because of our jobs or our kids. He just stayed tuned !

[WhiteRavenKS]

oh blog yourself a river, im not going to starting whiping my junk out over mostly meh-level pictures. yeah, subjects are cool guys but i dont see what everyone is so horny over. you want me to go take some poorly lit and hastily composed pictures of jared graves or mik hannah and post them so you can talk about how great the subjects are (even if the picth-ures are kinda not tho great). dont worry, ill post a few good ones in there just to confuse people.

"fisheye lens is bad".... that's pretty much wrong.

[MIKE1968]

I'm really really confused, if someone says it is a good picture they generally mean it is a good picture :dunno:


I just hope that guys half day rate is under 500 dollars.



ps- kevin...got to touch/experience a large format camera today with an 8x10 plate . thing was rediculous.



pps- erics pictures from rockport have always been a super high quality, these aren't even 20% of that.

[digby]

yeah, those pictures totally suck, the photographer is clearly either color blind or has a lazy eye.

a well shot picture of a tree or a stick of gum would get me way more excited.


"spread your knees!!!!!!"

[MIKE1968]

tree or stick of gum? :greddy:

[Cryo-Cube]

ahahahah
when did this board turn into a elitist photographer board?
Enjoy the fucking trials pictures, or dont.
Im 100% sure btw that no one would have said a bad word about the pics if one of the top forum users had shot them.

[WhiteRavenKS]

im 100% sure i would.

[Rob.K]

ahahahah
when did this board turn into a elitist photographer board?
Enjoy the fucking trials pictures, or dont.
Im 100% sure btw that no one would have said a bad word about the pics if one of the top forum users had shot them.

No kidding. Good words cryo.

[MIKE1968]

ahahahah
when did this board turn into a elitist photographer board?
Enjoy the fucking trials pictures, or dont.
Im 100% sure btw that no one would have said a bad word about the pics if one of the top forum users had shot them.

I'd be disappointed in myself if I took those and got paid for it.



They are not magazine quality, which was kennys hope for this shoot- at least thats what he told me in france. I wouldn't of said anything if everyone in here said they were the best pictures they had ever seen.

[trauma100]

erics pictures from rockport have always been a super high quality, these aren't even 20% of that.

[guumer]

could some one please explain why the pics are so bad

[WhiteRavenKS]

here's two examples. i could do more if you want.
http://www.observedtrials.net/otn3/smtb080406FH_0115.jpg

your eye doesnt see the world like this. this isnt fisheye- it's distorted though. the problem is that your mind likes to see other people in a normal way. it's hard to pull of creative and pleasing distorted images very well. the image is pretty soft in focus, something that can easily happen on wide angle lenses when shot at big appertures. the composition is pretty bland and doesnt need to be shot with this huge wide angle. the next one posted of an over the shoulder of kenny gives you a sense of surroundings with the rocks on the shore- it's a much better use of wide angle. the subject is also poorly lit. even an on camera fill flash would have helped a ton. the fact that he is wearing dark makes this even worse.

http://www.observedtrials.net/otn3/smtb080406FH_0578.jpg
who the fuck is that on the left? it's kenny... we know this because we are dorks or have met him in person or whatever. either way- that doesnt help anyone who doesnt know who he is understand what he looks like. this mystery person's visor shaddow is also hitting right on hans's nose. nit picky but easy as shit to fix, have hans cheat back about an inch. but the real issue is the light on kenny... or lack thereof. a flash to light him up would be great. or even easier... rotate your subjects 90 degrees clockwise so that the sun is hitting them both and not just hans. that would take maybe 4 seconds to arrange? unless of course the idea we are supposed to get here is that kenny is evil.

some of the pics are good. and for the most part, none of them are actually terrible. but everyone saying "omgeez, jizzzors, these are the best picthures ive ever seen in my entire life" is absurd.

[Peace]

is that a double butted front tire??

[guumer]

o ok thanks whiteraven i think i get it now

[MIKE1968]

I just wrote a bunch of stuff. Then I lost it. I paid $322 for a 430 ex earlier, that is hilarious. I'll be returning it in exactly 8 days.

[digby]

Ok, so since this has turned into a photography thread, I went riding today in san francisco and marin, took some pictures and even without the resizing, they turned out like shit.

http://img127.imageshack.us/img127/7285/img03640wb.jpg

http://img127.imageshack.us/img127/6986/img03728qp.jpg



I was using a canon sd450, its a little wallet sized camera that apparently is only good for taking pictures of drunk chicks with. What kind of camera would I need to take really clear poster level shots with? Also will I need to mess around with f-stops and apetures and timings(no idea what any of those are, just throwing them in there since I saw them in a photo related post).

extra points if its capable of doing a giant panoramic of the city.

Cost is not too much of an issue(under 1k would be nice) as I will be returning whatever I buy to frys electronics the following week.

[WhiteRavenKS]

both of those shots could benifit from the time of day that they were taken. late afternoon with the sun low on the horizon would warm up the light and make a lot of the colors in the shots more vibrant and saturated without any photoshop crap. the first one looks hazy. could just be atmospheric or uv haze. a filter can take a lot of that out. also playing with polarizers can be fun and make crazy changes in lighting. most stuff looks like shit at full res on your computer screen. even at great settings off a canon 1dmk2, full res stuff isnt going to be all that pretty. unless you turn it into a poster and stand 5 feet away from it.

[Dutch Trial]

looking so nice!!!!!!

[Trialsking]

Remember, real art can only be appreciated by true artists. The rest of us can only revel in the wisdom of the great ones. Because surely our pathetic and uninformed OPINIONS dont count.

[sconley1789]

What kind of bike is Hans riding. I see it is a GT, do they make a trials specific frame?

[GarthMc]

Remember, real art can only be appreciated by true artists. The rest of us can only revel in the wisdom of the great ones. Because surely our pathetic and uninformed OPINIONS dont count.

Your opinion is wrong :hsugh:

As for the photos, I know fuck all about photography (I own a crappy little cybershot), but Kevin is right. What the camera was pointed at was great, but if that was ment to be a shot for something to put in a magazine, then it was shite. They fisheye effect/lense added next to nothing for all of the pics, and the lighting in most of them was way out. "But it was shot at night" I hear some of you screaming, well if the photographer couldn't handle that chanllenge he should have waited till morning.

-Garth

ps. That 180 by Kenny is fucking nuts :nuts:

[WhiteRavenKS]

some people think taco bell is the best, authentic mexican food in the world. just their opinion.

some people think these are the best trials pictures ever taken. just their opinion.

[silus]

They are great pictures because of who is in them, period.

[WhiteRavenKS]

here's a picture of jesus. the print isnt very good but it's still a picture of jesus so that makes it great, dollar sign$.

http://www.observedtrials.net/otn3/itsjesus.jpg

[jobottDMB]

Jesus doesn't ride trials...

[MIKE1968]

Remember, real art can only be appreciated by true artists. The rest of us can only revel in the wisdom of the great ones. Because surely our pathetic and uninformed OPINIONS dont count.

Nothing in this whole thread has to do with art.

[netto]

here's a picture of jesus. the print isnt very good but it's still a picture of jesus so that makes it great, dollar sign$.

http://www.observedtrials.net/otn3/itsjesus.jpg

:bowrofl:

[silus]

here's a picture of jesus. the print isnt very good but it's still a picture of jesus so that makes it great, dollar sign$.
You make no fucking sense. You mind only works in terms of either-or, black or white? Point is the pictures quality is sufficient. What makes it unique, what makes the photos special, is who is in it. Example...

Get the greatest camera man in the world, give him the best equipment, give him all the time he needs, and let him take photos of YOU doing trials. Your photos will still be shit in comparison to these of Hans and Kenny. Not to mention no one will give a damn.

You are supposed to be a camera man and you still cant figure out how important the subject is to making an overall great photo? :ugh:

[WhiteRavenKS]

who the fuck is this shaggy haired hipppy? (it's ed) he's probably a no name guy from the states that has never been published in mainstream magazines really. he's probably been to a few comps... and pretty much no one outside the trials community knows who he is. this picture taken by firewrx612 is a better picture than almost every single one of hans/kenny.
http://trialsgeek.smugmug.com/photos/68073751-L.jpg

my point in posting that clearly awesome picture of jesus is that the subject matter is only worth something if it's captured well. i am supposed to be a camera man. i know what the fuck the subject has to do with the picture- if you cant see the humor in what i posted or the fact that the majority of the shots are not publishable material (let alone what andrew and my gripe was in the first place- that these are not the best pictures ever as they are made out to be in the responses) then :ugh: smiley at you.

[KeepRollin]

I really don't care if I see pictures of top riders like Kenny or Vince because they just aren't as enjoyable as video. I would rather see awesome pictures of "no-name" riders then so-so pictures of the top riders. If the picture is good it is good, now I also don't think all of those pictures are bad, but saying they are good because Kenny is in them is ridiculous.

[KeepRollin]

who the fuck is this shaggy haired hipppy? (it's ed) he's probably a no name guy from the states that has never been published in mainstream magazines really. he's probably been to a few comps... and pretty much no one outside the trials community knows who he is. this picture taken by firewrx612 is a better picture than almost every single one of hans/kenny.
http://trialsgeek.smugmug.com/photos/68073751-L.jpg

my point in posting that clearly awesome picture of jesus is that the subject matter is only worth something if it's captured well. i am supposed to be a camera man. i know what the fuck the subject has to do with the picture- if you cant see the humor in what i posted or the fact that the majority of the shots are not publishable material (let alone what andrew and my gripe was in the first place- that these are not the best pictures ever as they are made out to be in the responses) then :ugh: smiley at you.

I have often thought I should pay that man for the some of the pictures he's taken of me......

[jobottDMB]

You guys aren't going to make Hans want to give me pictures anymore...how about next time you criticize a picture, you do it to the photographer, who isn't here and will probably never see these pictures posted here (hopefully). 'm glad some of you liked the pictures but for those of you who didn't like the quality of the pictures I think that this particular post wasn't the place to express your opinion in such a negative way. I wouldn't be surprised if Hans e-mailed me in the next day or two and told me to take these down. I posted these because I thought you guys would like them and didn't think it would turn into a multiple page rant about poor picture quality. Next time I will keep these "crappy" pictures to myself.

[AndyT]

Here is what it boils down to:


no reputable magazine would give much attention to the photos from the beginning of the thread- purely based on quality.

Kenny's hope in getting these pictures taken was publicity for trials in the states, he told him this himself in between snorting nasal allergy things and telling me they were like poppers.

To the average bicycle rider (who is the audience he is trying to reach in magazines), believe it or not, a picture of kenny and hans rey means nothing to them because- hey...they don't have a clue what the subject matter is!

If the pictures had been fantastic, the chances of them being printed larger/more prominently in magazines goes way up. These pictures aren't going to be printed for their subject matter...if it was a picture of george bush lynching a black guy it wouldn't matter what the quality was- everyone knows the subject...but here we are, with 2 people barely anyone knows (most know hans in the US...I hope), and terrible pictures.

The 2-300 people here on the internet who live and breathe trials who have seen these pictures we can say they are amazing without taking a single second to look at the actual photographs...the tens of thousands of people who don't know about trials will just look at the photographs first; the name of the rider won't bring their attention to it.

I'm sure hans has a decent amount of pull in some mountain bike magazines, and they will make their way there- but no one is going to flip through and go "holy shit look at this 2 page spread, i'm going to cut it out and put it on my wall" . They are just going to flip through, and the hopes to raise awareness of trials in the US drops another ring...I've seen various shoots from hans before, I know he has good photographers...




seacrest out

[firewrx612]

I have often thought I should pay that man for the some of the pictures he's taken of me......

Where's the holding out my hand emoticon? damn. lol

Thanks for all the positive comments everyone.

[trauma100]

I thought the pictures were half way decent ..

I never spend to much time looking that hard into photos/photography .......I leave that to the arteeeesssst and phohoe studnets to scrutinize over.

just my 2 penniez

As far as Erics (firewrx) pics are concerned... I have a Bias opinion due to the fact that we swap Bodliy fluids on a regular basis :naughty:

[baz]

man its good to see old school and new school ripping it up together,im suprised at the quality of the pictures but the difference in the quality of riding must have been insane...

[silus]

Where are the videographer elitists when you need them? I'm sure they will have something to say about the fisheye. :momaru:

[aki]

Amazing pics.:bowdown: :bowdown: :bowdown: If I could take pictures half way decent...

And great comments Kevin. It's good to read other photographer's reviews.

[mattyv8]

and photoshop it too!

[poisonfrog]

amazing stuff. nice shoes hans.

[zealot_53]

I enjoyed these pics, not even bothering to criticise it from a photography point of view (which, even then, I know jack shit about). Trials is trials. I think that most people who found these pictures amazing liked the riding aspect of it. We're trials riders, not photographers/artists. Who cares if the technical aspects of it are poor, as long as what was being done was captured. Kevin/Andrew, maybe you could talk to Hans and Kenny directly about their photographers if you feel that they aren't getting enough justice from their photos.

Anyways, great shots :bowdown:

[icemike.com]

I'm really really confused, if someone says it is a good picture they generally mean it is a good picture :dunno:


I just hope that guys half day rate is under 500 dollars.



ps- kevin...got to touch/experience a large format camera today with an 8x10 plate . thing was rediculous.



pps- erics pictures from rockport have always been a super high quality, these aren't even 20% of that.

I feel sad for a lot of you guys here commenting about the quality of these pictures. It shows that some of you are just pissed off and jealous I guess that you don't get any recognition.

I just stumbled on this forum by accident and it pissed me off that someone takes out 2 images from a whole series and starts braking down everything, although the explanation given about those 2 images wasn't bad or wrong. In fact, they were quite correct, but misplaced if you have just the slightest idea about timing of the shoot, the circumstances, location...

Why not comment on Hans' wall ride image? A nice wide-angle shot, clear and a fuck damn good location in downtown LA. Dared as well I guess to shoot and ride there without any permits, no?

So just a small comment to those of you who have their balls twisted the wrong way: if you can't do better, don't comment on any work. If you can do better, don't comment but show what you're made of and post your own stuff. And if you're really good and a professional or upcoming professional, show it by not making a fool out of yourself by commenting like a jealous little boy.

Ciao ragazzi

[Extreme Mark]

swear to god i saw these pictures about 3 months ago, remember the one that looks like hans is kicking kenny over the gap, good set though

[lucky13]

I feel sad for a lot of you guys here commenting about the quality of these pictures. It shows that some of you are just pissed off and jealous I guess that you don't get any recognition.

I just stumbled on this forum by accident and it pissed me off that someone takes out 2 images from a whole series and starts braking down everything, although the explanation given about those 2 images wasn't bad or wrong. In fact, they were quite correct, but misplaced if you have just the slightest idea about timing of the shoot, the circumstances, location...

Why not comment on Hans' wall ride image? A nice wide-angle shot, clear and a fuck damn good location in downtown LA. Dared as well I guess to shoot and ride there without any permits, no?

So just a small comment to those of you who have their balls twisted the wrong way: if you can't do better, don't comment on any work. If you can do better, don't comment but show what you're made of and post your own stuff. And if you're really good and a professional or upcoming professional, show it by not making a fool out of yourself by commenting like a jealous little boy.

Ciao ragazzi

I can relate. I've done a bit of modeling (BLUE STEEL (http://www.inmotionphoto.com/)) for a photographer and got most of my critique pointers from Colin. The general air of elitist photo critique is getting stagnant. I understand that you guys are trying to make a profession and absorb so much info at school and abroad, but holy junkshot batman, the comments are rediculously out of context and unnecessary.

What cracks me up about it is how (just trying to read between the lines here) these pics were the ones that were allowed to be posted here. I'd bet money that he kept the good ones for whatever the shoot was for, cause it sure as hell isn't for all of us stuck up assholes.

Thanks for letting us see your work.

[trauma100]

I feel sad for a lot of you guys here commenting about the quality of these pictures. It shows that some of you are just pissed off and jealous I guess that you don't get any recognition.

I just stumbled on this forum by accident and it pissed me off that someone takes out 2 images from a whole series and starts braking down everything, although the explanation given about those 2 images wasn't bad or wrong. In fact, they were quite correct, but misplaced if you have just the slightest idea about timing of the shoot, the circumstances, location...

Why not comment on Hans' wall ride image? A nice wide-angle shot, clear and a fuck damn good location in downtown LA. Dared as well I guess to shoot and ride there without any permits, no?

So just a small comment to those of you who have their balls twisted the wrong way: if you can't do better, don't comment on any work. If you can do better, don't comment but show what you're made of and post your own stuff. And if you're really good and a professional or upcoming professional, show it by not making a fool out of yourself by commenting like a jealous little boy.

Ciao ragazziI feel sorry for you coming in here with this as your first post

[philth]

I feel sorry for you coming in here with this as your first post


I feel sorry you had to use your 2205 post to point that out:bigthumb:

[Caesbiketrial]

Jesus doesn't ride trials...

you´re wrong he rides trials i saw him in a dream!! and taps like hell

[WhiteRavenKS]

oh silly raggazo...

there are so many things that could be done with this that i dont even know where to start. probably better to just let it fade slowly away...