Hubs

[twowheeler]

What do people prefer King or Hadley (108pt ofcourse)? I know a lot more people use kings than hadleys... any opinions from the hadley users?

[free_rideman]

If you search the forum there are many threads involving this. I haven't used either yet, but when I do get new hubs (very soon), I will definitely buy the hadleys. They are simple and easy to maintain (what I have heard), plus cheaper the CK hubs.

[Noel]

Most people here will most likely say KING.

[CoppellStereo]

hadley= more bling imo :drool:

[MegamoMidwest]

^^ really? I disagree. CK is the original bling.

[CoppellStereo]

original, yes, but bling to me is what most people dont have, and i would say most people don't run hadley

[mcdub]

Classic thread ressurection.

[Boo_Berry]

well now that i finally have a king -- KING!

[twowheeler]

Yeah I know this has been discussed before, I read some of the threads. I was just looking for more up to date feedback, you know now that more people have had the opportunity to try a hadley and use them for a longer period of time.

[free_rideman]

Just the fact that a Hadley costs less, and at least is of equal quality with a King, should be your selling point. Plus you can get the 10mm through axle hub for $250, compared to the additional cost of spending money on the fun bolts if you go with the King.

[lucky13]

Nothing has changed since the old threads.

KING FTW!

Hadley is for DH hucksters with 150 spacing

[free_rideman]

They also make it in 135mm. Anyways, that just means that they are better. If a huckster can ride them, than I am sure a trials rider can too.

[chronic]

They also make it in 135mm. Anyways, that just means that they are better. If a huckster can ride them, than I am sure a trials rider can too.

I'm sorry... But that was stupid

[Giant1118]

They also make it in 135mm. Anyways, that just means that they are better. If a huckster can ride them, than I am sure a trials rider can too.

well if u put it that way...PFFFFFFFF

King FTW and they are 100x easier to maintain then the Hadley, not to mention the ring drive mech. is more reliable then offset pawls.

[free_rideman]

What was so stupid about my comment?

Lucky13 said that they are for "DH hucksters with 150 spacing"

So that is why I replyed with the 135mm bit. The other part of my comment was explaining that if the stereotypical "huckster" rider can't break them, than why would a trials rider, who IMO are more technically inclined to keeping things running right, and don't destroy parts because of negligence.

-plus kings need special tools to service, special lube for the ring drive, and they have their weird break in time.

[Motorfiets1234]

CK with a heavy duty axle, you'll break the standard axle

[tomacropod]

What was so stupid about my comment?

Lucky13 said that they are for "DH hucksters with 150 spacing"

So that is why I replyed with the 135mm bit. The other part of my comment was explaining that if the stereotypical "huckster" rider can't break them, than why would a trials rider, who IMO are more technically inclined to keeping things running right, and don't destroy parts because of negligence.

-plus kings need special tools to service, special lube for the ring drive, and they have their weird break in time.

you've never owned a king have you?

Hucksters break axles. Trials riders break freehub systems. The King has a freehub system where, essentially, 72 pawls all engage at once. The hadley uses traditional pawls, which have never been reliable under trials riders no matter the manufacturer.

If you want to use something because it's different, that's fine. As for Hadleys being "of at least equal quality" with the king - that's completely subjective and if you want to start splitting hairs about it, is incorrect.

The king needs 2 5mm allen keys to do periodic service. If you consider anything other than a hammer and a shifting spanner to be "special" then perhaps you shouldn't be giving technical advice.

- Joel

[Yoda]

King all the way

I broke a regular axle on my King and had it replaced with a heavy duty under warranty. No problems other than that. I don't know about Hadley customer service, but King's service is great, especially with warranty and maintenence issues. When I mailed in my hub they called me the next day and asked some questions, two days later I got it back. Better than Brisa!

[chronic]

you've never owned a king have you?

Hucksters break axles. Trials riders break freehub systems. The King has a freehub system where, essentially, 72 pawls all engage at once. The hadley uses traditional pawls, which have never been reliable under trials riders no matter the manufacturer.

If you want to use something because it's different, that's fine. As for Hadleys being "of at least equal quality" with the king - that's completely subjective and if you want to start splitting hairs about it, is incorrect.

The king needs 2 5mm allen keys to do periodic service. If you consider anything other than a hammer and a shifting spanner to be "special" then perhaps you shouldn't be giving technical advice.

- Joel:werd:

[trialsn]

you've never owned a king have you?

Hucksters break axles. Trials riders break freehub systems. The King has a freehub system where, essentially, 72 pawls all engage at once. The hadley uses traditional pawls, which have never been reliable under trials riders no matter the manufacturer.

If you want to use something because it's different, that's fine. As for Hadleys being "of at least equal quality" with the king - that's completely subjective and if you want to start splitting hairs about it, is incorrect.

The king needs 2 5mm allen keys to do periodic service. If you consider anything other than a hammer and a shifting spanner to be "special" then perhaps you shouldn't be giving technical advice.

- Joel

:Owned: with athority!

[Giant1118]

was more of an explanation...not exactly owned. To add to that, if freeriders were harder on parts then there should be no reasoning behind the countless companies that do not warranty their products fro trials use.

[Sir_Crackien]

the main reason most of the trials companies don't warrenty parts in that they are located in a different company. even though many non disposible product sold in the U.S. carries has a 30 day manditory warrenty (although that rule might have changed)

[WhiteRavenKS]

generic hub topic response:

-all hubs skip.

-kings are good and worth the money

-hadleys work and are not just for huckers (huckers would ride some generic branded kona bullshit or something anyways). they are a well supported product and good considering they are cheaper than kings.

[buttafuko]

"-all hubs skip. "

I disagree. I have RB hub(Reactor) and it has never skipped. never ever. One lasted 1 year then engagementsystem broke. I got it warrantied quickly and the second one has lasted over a year now. Maybe someone remembers their rollinroll engagement system. It has two options: works awsome and NEVER skips(no pawls but 3 little rollers instead, 36 clicks). OR It breaks when it breaks and end of the game.
Some riders I know have not been so lucky and have broken their hubs in 3 months and 6 months. I am 73kg dont know maybe they are fatter:)

Get Chris King!

[lucky13]

What was so stupid about my comment?

Lucky13 said that they are for "DH hucksters with 150 spacing"

So that is why I replyed with the 135mm bit. The other part of my comment was explaining that if the stereotypical "huckster" rider can't break them, than why would a trials rider, who IMO are more technically inclined to keeping things running right, and don't destroy parts because of negligence.

-plus kings need special tools to service, special lube for the ring drive, and they have their weird break in time.

Huckster trash :slap:

[theringer66]

i kinda agree with lucky 13 didnt you have a king classic set last you 5 years no problems.

[such]

this topic is boring


I disagree. I have RB hub(Reactor) and it has never skipped. never ever. One lasted 1 year then engagementsystem broke. I got it warrantied quickly and the second one has lasted over a year now. Maybe someone remembers their rollinroll engagement system. It has two options: works awsome and NEVER skips(no pawls but 3 little rollers instead, 36 clicks). OR It breaks when it breaks and end of the game.
Some riders I know have not been so lucky and have broken their hubs in 3 months and 6 months. I am 73kg dont know maybe they are fatter:)


where can you get these hubs and for how much? they are awsome!! I taught they dont sell any more
Ive heard their problem was with easy breaking hub body?

[tomacropod]

you can get one from SimonK.

- Joel

[Peace]

"-all hubs skip. "

I disagree. I have RB hub(Reactor) and it has never skipped. never ever. One lasted 1 year then engagementsystem broke. I got it warrantied quickly and the second one has lasted over a year now. Maybe someone remembers their rollinroll engagement system. It has two options: works awsome and NEVER skips(no pawls but 3 little rollers instead, 36 clicks). OR It breaks when it breaks and end of the game.
Some riders I know have not been so lucky and have broken their hubs in 3 months and 6 months. I am 73kg dont know maybe they are fatter:)

Get Chris King!

RB hubs explode..... especially with heaveir riders. Not a fan of them at all. In the same league as a silent clutch IMO.

King shells can withstand something like 800lb of force...... pretty ridiculous. Hadleys sound good, id never ride one with confidence tho.

Peace

[tomacropod]

yeah they do sound good. One of the shop dudes built up a pair of gold hadleys (150mm DH rear) onto mavic 321s. Yummy for playing with, very interesting freehub sound.

- Joel

[haulrs]

have got both a king and a hadley (only cause my king shat an axle after 4 years minimum and no stock)

hadley feels weird through the pedals, esp after kinging for a while, not really confidence inspiring i would say
luck its just a spare and it ( the hadley) shits on my 2 old hope hubs
kleats hub used to skip alot
ants hub is ok, yeah that tall frooty turbo blower
jared lambornes (sorry for mis-spelt name)hub is going good still

but a king is easier to "service " and pawls are stupid too
my king has never really skipped a beat except when you forget to lube its ring up
pun intended

hey if the price is right do it big whoop it will last for a while if looked after service wise like any thing!

ps i am fat!

[haulrs]

drinking beer right now sooo cold it good:wtf:

[lucky13]

Huckster trash :slap:

I'm not really commited to this statement,.. I just thought it was funny?:greddy2:

This topic really is boring.

[tomacropod]

This topic really is boring

werd.

hi darren!

have got both a king and a hadley (only cause my king shat an axle after 4 years minimum and no stock)

hadley feels weird through the pedals, esp after kinging for a while, not really confidence inspiring i would say
luck its just a spare and it ( the hadley) shits on my 2 old hope hubs
kleats hub used to skip alot
ants hub is ok, yeah that tall frooty turbo blower
jared lambornes (sorry for mis-spelt name)hub is going good still

but a king is easier to "service " and pawls are stupid too
my king has never really skipped a beat except when you forget to lube its ring up
pun intended

hey if the price is right do it big whoop it will last for a while if looked after service wise like any thing!

ps i am fat!

- Joel

[Sondre]

Where can I buy these Hadley hubs?

[jonKranked]

on hadley:

their customer support is excellent from those i know who have had experience with them.

they make their hubs in a way such that they can use any kind of axle (standard QR, 10mm bolt on, 12mm bolt on for dh, etc)

on the 150mm hub... they make a freehub body for it that drops the spacing to 135mm and can take only 4 gears. which is pretty sweet for street & trials if you actually use gears (when the 150 hub body is spaced to 135 the wheel is supposedly dishless, which does make sense)

[rush]

ps i am fat!

I think youll find the word is THICK> :cool:

[atypical]

Some things never change. My Hadley and some cockroaches are going to be all that's left someday.