WI Trials Freewheel Problems

[CoppellStereo]

hey, has anyone ever had this problem with their White Industries Trials Freewheel?

I reshaped the springs that push out the pawls, 1 was mangled pretty bad. both the pawls that messed up were are opposite sides of each other. And for the holes that hold the pawls, one was miss-shapen and wouldnt allow the pawl to fully extend to engage properly, so i had to reshape that as well. For a while now, it felt like that i was loosing engagements points, and it seems i was right. I was riding at a skatepark tonight, and felt something weird, and looked down, and my freewheel was apart.

[Mat_P]

i havent had that problem with a WI freewheel as i have never had a WI freewheel before...but i have had similar problems (even worse) with all sorts of other freewheels...
now due to having many problems, as soon as i feel something isnt right i just replace the whole freewheel...

[CoppellStereo]

i havent had that problem with a WI freewheel as i have never had a WI freewheel before...but i have had similar problems (even worse) with all sorts of other freewheels...
now due to having many problems, as soon as i feel something isnt right i just replace the whole freewheel...
that would be the best thing to do, but when these cost so much, you dont want to pay to replace it, and they would probably warrenty it. but I was able to fix it, but the real test will be in the long run to see how it hold, but it should be as good as new.

[Mat_P]

well if you can fix it then go for it...they arent cheap like u said.
is it easy to get warranty on the freewheels?

[CoppellStereo]

well if you can fix it then go for it...they arent cheap like u said.
is it easy to get warranty on the freewheels?

no idea, but White Industries is really friendly, but I never had had to warrenty my freewheel, so i dunno

[tomacropod]

call or email them - they're so keen to fix up any problems. I've had free pawls, springs and bearings as replacements for a 5 year old hub - you should have no problems getting new pawls and springs. Use oil on the pawls and loctite the top cap when you reassemble it.

- Joel

[CoppellStereo]

call or email them - they're so keen to fix up any problems. I've had free pawls, springs and bearings as replacements for a 5 year old hub - you should have no problems getting new pawls and springs. Use oil on the pawls and loctite the top cap when you reassemble it.

- Joel

just curious, why oil instead of grease?

[lucky13]

Because grease has a more stiction and oil will let it run freely. Same goes for King ringdrives; Pro Floyd oil, dumondetech, triflow make it run smoother. Heck 10w-30 or ATF fluid would probly work fine.

[tomacropod]

yeah listen to the other Joel. Oil for pawls, always.

- Joel

[lucky13]

Old bmx trick for "racers" was to take a brand new freewheel and throw it in the solevent tank to remove ALL grease from it and lessen the drag. Cause you know that'll cost ya mmmm .002 seconds. pppsshshhhaaa.

[ilneff]

white industies pobably would help you out.
they have always been super good with the shop i work at. really quick and helpful.

[JK]

For the White Industries freewheel, it's best to run them dry. Take apart the freewheel, clean the parts, dry them, and wipe the pawls with a rag that has a little tri-fow on it. This should keep the pawls from corroding (the pawls are the only parts of the freewheel that aren't stainless). Everything else (springs,freewheel body, can be left dry). It's a good idea to perform this service once a month, or any time when you have been riding in sandy or muddy places. If you ride in the rain a lot, a little more tri-flow on the paws would be a good idea.

[CoppellStereo]

whats wrong with grease? is it too sticky-ish?

[Mat_P]

i assume that grease would be to sticky after its been there for a little bit...i know that i pulled a bb apart on an old bike i had in the shed not 2 long ago and the grease in it was like super glue....twasnt good.

[Elan]

ck time.

[Anon.]

whats wrong with grease? is it too sticky-ish?

Pretty much, yeah. The grease basically seems to weight the pawls a little more, meaning teh springs are worked harder. The pawls don't seem to really fly back out into place on mine either 'cos the springs aren't super strong, so I generally use some light spray lube over it and just reassemble.

The first thing I noticed about your's was the grease actually...

Anyway, the only problems I've had with mine so far was the normal thing of the excess grease from teh sealed bearing oozing onto the pawls and springs and slowing them down thus decreasing the solid-ness of the engagements, but I also somehow got my trouser-leg caught in it, which then ripped the driveshell off the freewheel by bending the lockring like a banana.

Mindfuck.

It's skipped a few times in the last few days anyway, so it's strip time again. Might have to use that oil advice too :)

[CoppellStereo]

yeah, that grease was already on it, thats why i thought i was supposed to put grease on it, i guess i need to take it off again and clean it and put some lube on it

[mcdub]

ck time.

^

always run oil,grease makes stickion and well make it drag and well skip.

USe try-flow.

I use ky/try flow mix.

[Penguin]

dang Steven - what haven't you broken? - haha

means good things - - - you're riding hard - - - keep it up!