Touch hop

[F_K]

I think there are two ways of doing a touch hop:
First:
At the moment when the front wheel reach the wall, the arms are bent, and the bar is near the stomach. The body is on the front of the bike above the front wheel. The front wheel touches only the top of the wall.
Here are two small slow motion videos:
http://cheatlexicon.uw.hu/touch-hop1a.avi
http://cheatlexicon.uw.hu/touch-hop1b.avi

Second:
At the moment when the front wheel reach the wall, the arms are straight, and the bar is far of the stomach. The body is on the rear of the bike like doing a manual. The front wheel tocuhes the side of the wall.
Here are two small slow motion videos:
http://cheatlexicon.uw.hu/touch-hop2a.avi
http://cheatlexicon.uw.hu/touch-hop2b.avi

What do you think, is this important? Or this is irrelevant? Which one do you use?

[Bryan]

I think you should ride your bike, conduct the experiment for yourself, and then tell us what the results are.

[eXtreme_one]

first one is WRONG !!! I was doing it that way a few months ago and after I went to ride some natural I noticed that if u do it the second way u're bike will get up easy and u can get higher this way.With method 1 I couldn't get higher that six and a half pallets. the second is the correct one ! now 7pallets are easy to rear wheel.....and that's why vince and the other guy do it at those heights.

[Christian C]

first= touch ......second = tap

[illcore]

YOU ARE ALL GAY. WATCH ME RIDE MY BIKE. AND THEN ENVEY ME

[rush]

YOU ARE ALL GAY. WATCH ME RIDE MY BIKE. AND THEN ENVEY ME
Oh dear.

[trauma100]

YOU ARE ALL GAY. WATCH ME RIDE MY BIKE. AND THEN ENVEY ME:momaru:

[loffa]

None of them are 'wrong', they are just different tehniques. With the first one you don't need as much speed and you can start it closer to the object or even with only 2 pedal strokes. The second one needs more speed but you can get much higher with that. How do you call them is up to you.

[LanceT]

I agree that they are 2 different techniques. The first, (touch) your tire hits on the corner of the object and it is almost like a rolling wheel switch. The 2nd(tap) your front wheel runs into the face of the object and your are pulling back as that happens to amplify the boost. It is basically a pedal up but the front wheel impact helps to generate more upward force. The 2nd is more effective with more run-up. The first is easier but if your wheelbase can't reach the top corner of the desired object then it won't work. It is funny because I was just working on alternating between these 2 techniques yesterday, so I thought I would comment too.

[oicdn]

I can't do the 2nd one (tap).....I can't seem to get it to go foreward so my rear wheel comes up to the edge...I just end up going UP.

I can do the 1st one (tap), but it doesn't seem like it does hardly anything....more or less showing off if anything else. It hardly gives ANY boost.

I don't think either are the "wrong way". But I don't think the 1st one is as effective....it would explain why I'm at a flatspot for things around barheight. Cause I can't fucking tap.

[eXtreme_one]

first one is WRONG !!! well it's wrong to try this at bigger heights but for small obstacles this is the tehnique.

[mcdub]

well it's wrong to try this at bigger heights but for small obstacles this is the tehnique.

do you realise just how fucking dumb you are and have mental problemes.

you wuoted yourself and started to reply to yourself.

your on fucking crack....

aside beeing gay/ugly/stupid thing/weak as fuck/easy to break bones/horrendiously ugly you are now officually retarded.

[TTownJon]

um... pretty sure he was just clarifying/correcting himself. No need to get bent out of shape.

["KeeN"]

yeah I agree. ^

[mcdub]

yeah I agree. ^
hows the car insurance going ?? I was actually wondering wat happened.Did they give you a new coupe ????

[MegamoMidwest]

I think the first one is just like trying to up it without a tap at all. with that technique there is really no point in touching the wall at all.

[Ped]

There is point because you can do it smoother and with less effort and run up.

[Cryo-Cube]

^ what he said

[TrashZen]

I think there are two ways of doing a touch hop:

What do you think, is this important? Or this is irrelevant? Which one do you use?I reckon there is all the intermediate variants, but it works better with arms stretched and locked to get the full bouncing effect to uplift you and the bike. Else, you absorb too much of the rebound with your arms (that's ok for small kerbs, but makes it difficult and translates into face plants on higher walls)
A split second after the bouncing, then you flex the arms to carry your body forward and lift the bike (but that's really happening after the front wheel contact and bounce, not during)
I am also experimenting at this stage, will come back with a slow-motion video to try sort this out.