New trials-specific hub

[sunderland56]

Anyone seen the new Profile hub? It has a narrow cassette body, so it only fits 6 cogs of an 8-speed cassette. In other words, it's UCI legal, buts uses currently available 8-speed cogs and shifter.

Wheels should be stronger - with a short cassette body, and a disk mount on the other side, the wheel should have virtually zero dish. 6 gears is more than enough. The freehub is supposed to have 72 engagement points (but they do it in a weird way - four pawls but only two catch at a time). Not a King, but only $250.

Pretty ugly, but hey, if it works...

It's up on their web site (www.profileracing.com).

[tomacropod]

when I was first in the market for a new hub it was a tossup between that and a king - this was FOUR YEARS AGO and it had been on the market for some time then. I've always had the hots for profiles - a mate of mine just got a 36h bmx hub with a 9t titanium driver - fucking beautiful - not built yet.

some of my favourites:

SS mtb with a 9-18tooth driver
http://www.profileracing.com/loader.php?load=shop&productid=158

what my mate has:
http://www.profileracing.com/loader.php?load=shop&productid=106

nicest DH hub ever?
http://www.profileracing.com/loader.php?load=shop&productid=51

what you're talking about - 6 speed (dishless, 6 cogs w/8 speed spacing, 48 engagements I thought...might be more?).
http://www.profileracing.com/loader.php?load=shop&productid=52

I want one for my 135mm BMX. Would run as an SS but it's dishless so who cares.

thanks for stealing $300us from me sunderland !

- Joel

[digby]

yup, Ive always liked profile hubs too, never got the chance to buy one though. Even though every one is always trying to find a king replacement, before they raised their prices to match ridiculous shop prices, a profile or king were about the same price, I remember I found a king classic new for $219 once. Its relible, engages fast, solid and the last thing - weight. The king is usually a good 100 grams less than anything else out there. There are only a few hubs that beat it and those are american classic, dt hugi 240, tryall fixed and maybe the bt fixed. They only manage to beat it by 10 grams or so though.

Before the price jump, it'd be silly to pay the same or more and get something other than a king if you wanted a hub for performance. Now with the price jump, this is a pretty good alternative, I like that you can get it bolt on or quick rrelease no extra charge. That singlespeed one looks pretty nice too.

[BrettM]

Profile have a bit of a reputation of needing to be rebuilt once in a bit. Well most every cassette hub in the bmx does anyways. Thats only bmx torque. I love profile stuff (except for the cranks which they are known for I guess) and would use one on my bmx, but never ever for trials use.

[tomacropod]

as long as we have king for trials the profiles aren't needed but they look nice for other stuff. I'd like one of those 6 speed ones for a jumping/street/DJ hardtail. dishless = good.

- Joel

[TheMunn]

The profile system is more solid than a king, but then when you bed the king hub in it is okay, I have seen too many problem's with king hub's but then there are problem's with profile aswell. Hope hub's win the reliability game in my book's and i'm waiting to get my hope pro 2 trials hub.

[Bigman 86]

There is a few people who have tried the Profile hubs on 26inch over here in the UK, they didn't have the best of luck with them, because they use a 24 toothed ratchet, with 2 sets of 2 pawls, they tend to blow up when used on a 26inch, because of the increased torque, and bigger wheels etc.

BUT: the BMX mini cassette hub, which is used on 20inch bikes is AWSOME, this is the hub that people in the UK run, as a King BMX hub is WAY to expensive over here, these also use a 24 toothed ratchet, and 2 sets of 2 pawls, yet because of the different gearing and smaller wheels they do not blow up, this has to be the most popular cassette mod hub used in the UK, This is the hub ran by the Insane Craig Lee Scott.

Mini cassette hub:
http://www.profileracing.com/loader.php?load=shop&productid=110

So........

I would not recomend a profile for 26inch trials use, but DEFFIANTLY the BMX mini casstte for a mod, as they are VERY strong.

Hope that helped.

Adam

[xxxfr]

???? profiles are great and all, but theyre not more solid than a king, what problems have you heard about kings, ive had mine for about a year now, the XC model, alloy freehub body, not a single issue

[such]

there are some people out there that cant read CK pdf manual for bedding in and maintenence...
thats the main problem with kings - you have to learn reading before using their hub

[tomacropod]

thats the main problem with kings - you have to learn reading before using their hub
:rofl:

well said

- Joel

[lucky13]

there are some people out there that cant read CK pdf manual for bedding in and maintenence...
thats the main problem with kings - you have to learn reading before using their hub
derf? What is this reading you speak of?

[Mordax]

dishless = good.

- Joel
forgive my ignorance, but what does dishless mean?

[Elan]

it means the wheel is perfectly centered over the hub flanges, the spokes are the same length on eiter side. this give more of a triangle to the wheel, making it stronger. thatas what i think anyways.

[tomacropod]

it means the RIM is centred between the hub flanges :-)

with most mtb/road hubs the width of the cassette body on the drive side means that the driveside flange is closer to the centre which means the spokes are at different angles for either side. It used to be a big thing but honestly, I don't think anyone cares anymore, it doesn't make a real difference. Having a narrower cassette body like the 6 speed profile means you can have a dishless wheel which is stronger and stiffer.

- Joel