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liv2ride
06-17-2005, 11:20 AM
So, I've been seeing people say that mounting hs33's to canti bosses is worthless or too much flex. Is this true? ... and is there a solution to make it better such as a brake booster or something?
I ride a PX Zebdi and would like to switch from a hayes hydro disc to an hs33
rtorrenga
06-17-2005, 11:27 AM
A brake booster will help significantly. I use maguras on canti mounts and they work fine.
belld006
06-17-2005, 11:31 AM
you obviously don't liv2ride...
yes, it's shit...a booster doesn't even help anyway, if you want more power, buy a bigger rotor, or alternatively buy v-brakes, i suggest, as most people would...
Avid Ultimate v-brakes
flatjacket cable housing
some good strong cable
plazmatic CRV pads
avid speed-dial 7 levers
this is an ace set-up for vee's a little expensive, but beautiful braking every time:D
-Dean
chronic
06-17-2005, 11:35 AM
When I had maguras on vee-posts I made a 1/2" booster which made it pretty stiff.
trialsrider50
06-17-2005, 11:39 AM
Seriously now, without a booster my evo 2 mount sucked cocka. Like no wet stop what-so-eva, and way too much flex, I bought an echo 4 bolt booster and cut the bottom off(mainly because webcyclery was out of 2 bolt aluminum magura boosters) and now the brakes work awesome. don't get a steel booster, its just a waste of money. for 5 or maybe 10 bucks more you can have cnc aluminum and the are lighter and much stiffer. and then the brakes will kick ass.
hydroboy
06-17-2005, 11:44 AM
belld006 (member.php?u=4398) do you actually know what a hs-33 is?
hydroboy
06-17-2005, 11:44 AM
PS maguras on vee mounts work fine, so do vees.
I've been usin' 33s on all my bikes with canti mounts. They have always worked well.
lowside
06-17-2005, 01:22 PM
i love my hs33s but if i went back to a 2-bolt frame id rock a v-brake
chronic
06-17-2005, 01:32 PM
Dear god hydro boy...I was browsing this from work, And your picture...It scared me.
Dekes
06-17-2005, 02:12 PM
belld006 (http://member.php?u=4398) do you actually know what a hs-33 is?
:rofl:
EVO2 adapters make it possible, a booster will prevend your frame from bending. Hs33 with EVO adapters are a pain to setup i've heard. with maggie mouths it's so easy to set up. I wish I had a rear disc though.
Giant1118
06-17-2005, 02:13 PM
Canti bosses = V brake its just what you do
If you want to go with HS33's it will do u fine and despite what people say about evo mounts being hard to set up, they really arent. As far as them being shit I do agree. I never really liked them. But like I said earlier I think a V brake would be a better option... however much more pricey
RyanL
06-17-2005, 03:33 PM
So, I've been seeing people say that mounting hs33's to canti bosses is worthless or too much flex. Is this true? ... and is there a solution to make it better such as a brake booster or something?
I ride a PX Zebdi and would like to switch from a hayes hydro disc to an hs33
The cheapest setup that works really well is XTR levers, housing, and any old vee brakes and add a grind if needed. Really easy to setup up properly, its' cheap and it works. All the pros ran this for the past 2-3 years and I think 1 out of ten riders in port moody actually had maguras.
RomanR
06-17-2005, 04:54 PM
for real belld006.. just..... god damn.
liv2ride, just take care to set them up properly, no tpa at all if you can help it, pads square to the rim etc, and you'll be fine. It would be a good idea to get a v brake booster to use on the brake studs, wether than be under or over the brake. Over the brake is more than fine. Use whatever booster comes with the maguras, I had no problems with the steel one by itself. I ran it with a v booster at first, but I got the brake setup so spot on that it was real solid with just the steel booster. Surprised a ton of people who squeezed my brake hoping it would feel horrible.
Maguras are simpler to set up on 4 bolt mounts, but it's not like they're gonna be absolutely retarculous on v mounts.
hydroboy
06-17-2005, 04:58 PM
JUST GET A BIGGER ROTOR SILLY.
hydroboy
06-17-2005, 04:58 PM
PS i think, although others dont, you can set up a magura on vee mounts just as well as you can on 4 bolt mounts, takes about 5x longer though.
hydroboy
06-17-2005, 05:02 PM
if you want more power, buy a bigger rotor
http://www.observedtrials.net/otn2/banghead.gif
valiumlaw
06-17-2005, 06:03 PM
So, I've been seeing people say that mounting hs33's to canti bosses is worthless or too much flex. Is this true? ... and is there a solution to make it better such as a brake booster or something?
I ride a PX Zebdi and would like to switch from a hayes hydro disc to an hs33
No its not true, iv been running an HS33 on my zebdi since i got it many months ago and its been fine. Use 1 booster atleast, i use a magura steel and a Vbrake booster, for the top and bottom (canti mounts) respectively. Make sure your HS33 is air free, buy good pads, a la rimjams, grind your rim, set up the pads so they hit square. People saying there is too much flex are full of shite, my set up on the zebdi provides excellent working brakes, adequate for trials, mine are covered in dust/crap and still work.
onto1wheel
06-17-2005, 07:45 PM
i've been running hs33's on my zebdi for years. works fine. i do run 2 boosters on the back, though (weird, eh).d
Cryo-Cube
06-18-2005, 08:45 AM
lol
i would just buy a Vee for 20$ and enjoy riding instead of buying a mag for more moneyzsn and use a 2 booster setup.
Vees work perfectly, dont know where this hs33 addiction comes from.
unlimits
06-18-2005, 01:54 PM
Although it's possible to set magura brakes on canti mounts, V-brakes work well and are cheaper and easier to set or maintain. Depending on the set of arms, levers, cable and pads you won't have better braking with magura and you don't have problems adjusting the brakes. You can like the feel of magura but you won't go wrong with v-brakes
werkinit
06-18-2005, 06:37 PM
vee s are good for power but you can t beat the maggie modulation.
If you still have flex with a maggie booster , take the quick release bolt out slip a washer over the head and screw it back in. The flex in the booster is from movement of the booster around the bolt head. Whats the point of a booster thats attached to only one side.
And as a bonus you have to let the air out of your tire to take it off just like a four bolt mount.
Or if you wanna pimp your ride get a carbon version .
Cryo-Cube
06-18-2005, 07:10 PM
maggies have good modulation
ehmm no dawg
http://mitglied.lycos.de/digitalglove/noo.gif
you just disqualified yourself
Anon.
06-18-2005, 07:34 PM
I find they modulate enough for manuals and most stuff, really. Saying that, I have them pulling back super far, so there's quite a lot of travel of not "LOCK"? I just don't pull them on super hard if I don't want the brake on super hard, basically...
Macbeth
06-18-2005, 11:34 PM
I used to have a Planet X, back in the day, and ran maguras on it for ages..... then I put a v brake on it and went, "what the hell was I doing with that magura on there" if you got canti mounts, run vees, there way better...... I love maguras on four bolt, but not canti
Maggies come with Evo's which are for canti mounts.
think about this for a moment.
Obviously Magura thinks their evo's are good enough for it.
So maybe.... JUST MAYBE... they are?
just a thought.
trialsrider50
06-20-2005, 10:50 AM
Maybe you should leave the real advice to people who actually use them humm. The evo does one thing only. holds the top bolts in place. but their poor excuse for a booster doesn't do shit. evo 2(depending on your frames flex) absolutely need a booster, its a night and day difference. the evo doesn't even begin to compare.
Cryo-Cube
06-20-2005, 12:40 PM
Maggies come with Evo's which are for canti mounts.
think about this for a moment.
Obviously Magura thinks their evo's are good enough for it.
So maybe.... JUST MAYBE... they are?
just a thought.
Woow thats deep man! Following that logic:
Maggies come with black pads, think about it for a moment
Obviously Magura thiks their pads are good enough for it.
So maybe... JUST MAYBE... they are?
wait there is more:
My 3 year old PC came without a CD/DVD burner.
think about it.
Obviously they think their PC´s are good enough without it.
So maybe... JUST MAYBE... they are?
belld006
06-20-2005, 01:23 PM
yeah, i know what a magura hs33 is...
i also know that when compared to four bolt moutns, then canti mounts, i'd gladly take an avid ultimate over a hs33 on canti mounts
-Dean
chronic
06-20-2005, 02:12 PM
When I had my maguras on a DMR frame with canti mounts, I was using the OLD evolution adapters, the ones that didn't have those nice little teeth underneath the frame stops. Mine were press fit studs that fucken sucked to adjust!
Despite the shit adapters that I didn't even have all the parts too I was able to set them up properly, and I still had killer brakes in the winter.
You guys bitching about how you shouldn't swap inbetween dedicated mounts, fine. An opinion, but you can make it work fine. If you cannot, take it to someone who can because its not that complicated.
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