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bmorekirby
02-15-2005, 07:51 PM
i was wondering if there are any books on trials. books that would teach essentail skill, tricks and stuff like that.

kirby

AndyT
02-15-2005, 08:03 PM
of course not.

Boo_Berry
02-15-2005, 08:10 PM
in this month's uk mountain biking or whatever (i can't remember the name -- but steve peat is on the cover), there's a small section with martyn ashton and this other guy teaching basics of trials... but other than that, on biketrials.com they have video sections you could learn from

Lilley
02-15-2005, 08:17 PM
http://www.monty.es/news/all_news.asp?news_id=68

http://www.monty.es/news/all_news.asp?news_id=68

If you follow this link you will find some mention of a book about trials.

That said videos are much better to learn from, maybe get yourself something like Tricks and Stunts or wait till Ryan Leech's new how to film is released.

AndyT
02-15-2005, 08:23 PM
or just spend lots of time riding. The internet will have 199042904 times more information than any book will ever have, if you can't find it then I'm sorry.

tomacropod
02-15-2005, 08:41 PM
if you need something literary, and I don't think it's necessary, then MBUK is your best bet. They have a regular trials column and often have larger trials sections. Even Mountain biking, a much larger sport, is not large enough to regularly produce up-to-date and quality books. Trials moves quickly, both in equipment and rider improvement, any book would be out of date by the time it was released.

- Joel

bmorekirby
02-15-2005, 08:49 PM
thanks for the advice guys, and more ideas please post

halfazn
02-15-2005, 10:50 PM
I'll have to see if i can get ahold of some old school Ot Pi videos 4 u. They are old and cheesy but informal.

Faction Bike
02-15-2005, 11:17 PM
watch videos, ride, watch more videos, ride, watch a lot more video, ride.

Study things like center of mass, foot position, and overall body posture during the moves you want to learn. And exaggerate everything you see. If you think their ass drops a foot in the move, try and drop yours 2 feet. Also, watch videos of the best riders only. Vince, Coust, Kenny, Caisso, Benito, Comas, etc. Don't watch movies like the FTC series. You won't improve, our technique blows. Vince once said to my face, "you could go bigger than me if you had the techinique, but you don't. I can give 100% of my strength into a move, but you can only give 80%, that is why you go small....hahahah" Then I used 100% of my strength and punched a pepperoni through his head.

Anyway, the biggest thing is PRACTICE. Nothing comes easy in this sport. You gotta train hard if you want to improve.

One more word of wisdom. Push yourself. Too often I see riders without a scratch on their bike. If you don't bail hard at least a couple times a ride you aren't pushing your limits and you're just being a pussy and you will never improve.

The end.

Elan
02-15-2005, 11:26 PM
Then I used 100% of my strength and punched a pepperoni through his head.



One more word of wisdom. Push yourself. Too often I see riders without a scratch on their bike. If you don't bail hard at least a couple times a ride you aren't pushing your limits and you're just being a pussy and you will never improve.


1: WERD

2: thats me hes referring to

jmkimmel
02-15-2005, 11:31 PM
One more word of wisdom. Push yourself. Too often I see riders without a scratch on their bike. If you don't bail hard at least a couple times a ride you aren't pushing your limits and you're just being a pussy and you will never improve.

The end.
true - you can only get so far in this sport while being a vagina. It's easy to get complacent and do the same size moves everyday, but you won't be getting better. That said, I'm a big fan of vagina.

tybikes
02-16-2005, 01:33 AM
Pretty much got it. US riders aren't treating trials as a sport, like in other countries. Its still more of a hobby. There is a reason why foreign riders improve at a faster rate than US guys, and it isn't pure athleticism or genetics...

greyghost
02-16-2005, 04:01 AM
Take a vid of yourself, that helps more than anything. Then, you can compare it with vids of world class riders, and it's easy to see what you are doing wrong. It's easy to watch vids of good riders, but if you can see yourself outside of what you think you're doing, it's easier to see your faults and correct them.

Cryo-Cube
02-16-2005, 05:52 AM
videos of yourself = thze bestz

I had no idea why i couldnīt do a frontwheel move even up a tiny ass curb.
I thought i was leaning way forward and trhowing my weight to the front....
I then filmed myself and found out i wasnīt leaning forward at all. It may felt like i was but my body wasnīt even close to the bars.

aki
02-16-2005, 12:59 PM
Definitely videos. I think it's a sport that's a bit hard to explain in words without practicing and watching others ride.

Like others have said filming yourself is probably the best way to improve comparing with others. I understood why sometimes I couldn't do a simple move or unable to balance.