BT 6.0- better idea on timing?

[Bryan]

Roman or Rav, do you have any better idea on when the BT 6 will be out? Is it leaning more towards april, or sometime in early march?

In case it will be a long time, what does everyone recommend for a frame- 1090 pitbull, control, or levelboss? I haven't heard much about the first two.

[Elan]

if i had a to make a choice right now, it would be a toss up between the control and hte Lb. prolly the control because its $100 cheaper. prolly not the pitbul but waht do i know

[Bryan]

hm, on webcyclery the control is only $25 less. Would you still go for that over the LB?

[RomanC]

If nothing unexpected happens the frame should definately be here by end of March. Hopefully it will be at the start of March or end of April.

[rav]

Roman or Rav, do you have any better idea on when the BT 6 will be out? Is it leaning more towards april, or sometime in early march?
.New Frames on March/April

1. Frame BT RAVen 6.0

4 option
WB 1065 M
WB 1065 V
WB 1100 M
WB 1100 V
BB rise +40mm
CS 375mm
One piece CNC BB+YOKE, CNC D/O

2. Frame BT NINJA

For beginning 1 option
WB 1100 M
BB rise +20mm
CS 360mm
One piece CNC BB+YOKE, standard D/O

[hydroboy]

Is the ninja 20"?

[RomanC]

Is the ninja 20"?
No, It is a 26.

[Bryan]

Will the ninja cost more than the 6.0? If it goes for the same price, damn, that geometry is perfect!

[trauma100]

NINJA PICS?

[CoppellStereo]

what do the 'M' and 'V' mean by the WBs?

[RomanC]

what do the 'M' and 'V' mean by the WBs?

M - magura
V - V brake

[Rob.K]

Ninja....WTF...........1100 with 360 stays sounds crazy. interesting to see if anyone could actually ride something like that?

[Elan]

its callled a ninga because it has 109X balance.

id probably still go control over LB, but thats just because i used to have a LB and would want to try somthing different. the LB is probably the safest investment in the trials world though.

[hydroboy]

i dont understand how 360mm is possible, sounds good though.

[Bryan]

Any word on prices?

[Rob.K]

i dont understand how 360mm is possible, sounds good though.
ya me neither?

But it's good to see some different geo and so many options. Right on Rav....:bigthumb:

[Simonk]

i dont understand how 360mm is possible, sounds good though.
my guess is it has to do with the one piece cnc bb/yoke

[Bloodhound]

Ninja....WTF...........1100 with 360 stays sounds crazy. interesting to see if anyone could actually ride something like that?That reach is 35mm longer than 1090mm with 385 stays. I dont quite understand why you'd want starys that short though, I definately wouldnt go beyond my 375's.
Pushin limits is always good though.

[Bloodhound]

my guess is it has to do with the one piece cnc bb/yoke
*Looking at my bike* BT5.0, DX32, 24.1 2.2"

There is about 25 mm between the bb shell and tire. 360 is definately possible... obviously

[hello?]

40mm bb rise..thats a lot. 360 chainstays seems weird and not really necessary but also sounds completely necessary. thats gonna be a lot of reach. oh well, someone needed to some out with some different geometry. sounds good. need pics.

[AgrAde]

NINJA PICS?

w0rd.

[felix]

i dont understand how 360mm is possible, sounds good though.

A super wide bottom bracket shell makes it possible.

[tzimon]

Sounds interesting.... props again to Rav and BT for bringing it to the table.

[durkie]

so are we finally getting 73mm+ BB shells that we don't have to cram big DH BBs in to?

[Elan]

A super wide bottom bracket shell makes it possible.

durkie, can you read/

[durkie]

durkie, can you read/ can someone tell me what this says?

yeah yeah. everyone does it once.:joshers:

[rush]

Cant wait to see pics of said Ninja.

[jamesb]

The BT 6.0 has awesome geometry! I might just have to get one.

[hello?]

ive got the 5.0 and it makes me jealous that there coming out with something different and all suped up, although my 5.0 works extremely good and i dont think i need anything else anyway.

[Ruler]

are there any news about the bt 6.0? when are they availiable and how much will they cost?

[Sondre]

anybody who have bt6.0 pics??

[Chris]

pics from espacetrial.com

http://tomaxp.free.fr/trial/bt_camille/btcamille.JPG
http://tomaxp.free.fr/trial/bt_camille/btcamille%20%281%29.JPG
http://tomaxp.free.fr/trial/bt_camille/btcamille%20%2829%29.JPG
http://tomaxp.free.fr/trial/bt_camille/btcamille%20%283%29.JPG

[Cryo-Cube]

i got an e-mail from the BT guy´s today.

BT Raven 6.0 available in the end of April... and i found 3 small cracks on my bike the other day
argh 2 months

[Jos]

NINJA PICS?


http://www.neverhorst.de/uploads/ninja.jpg

Ninjas are totally sweet. (http://www.realultimatepower.net/index4.htm)

[hopsalot]

Unusual drop outs, why the holes drilled on the bottom side?

[rush]

That is the most faggot ninja ive ever seen. Nice sword, belt, bandanna, and elbow pads. Freak pussy.

[AndyT]

fuck you that is me

[Elan]

i seen it, its true!!! all ove the sink!

[Trialsking]

What kinda stem would you guys use with that +40mm bb? Mod stem or 15 degree rise??? There clearance sounds cool, but would have to Vinco it out to get a stable bike?

[felix]

What kinda stem would you guys use with that +40mm bb? Mod stem or 15 degree rise??? There clearance sounds cool, but would have to Vinco it out to get a stable bike?

Something with 20°-30° rise and 130mm length.

[RomanC]

Those photos are of the BT6.0 prototype. The final model will look somewhat different.

[digby]

its pretty obvious to me that none of you have ever really seen a real ninja before

http://www.geocities.com/Hollywood/Boulevard/7384/ninjastills3.jpg

[bmorekirby]

Those photos are of the BT6.0 prototype. The final model will look somewhat different.
will the sropout be the same? i see nothing but trouble with those gears being so exposed.

and what kind of price are we looking at for the 6.0?

[felix]

will the sropout be the same? i see nothing but trouble with those gears being so exposed.


The final frame will have different dropouts and no disc mount.

[bogus111]

The final frame will have different dropouts and no disc mount.
Didn't Rav bitch on about Kotovs "stealing" his idea of dropouts and disc support?

[Bloodhound]

that silly, the disk option was a a very attracting feature, to put it mildly

[tomaxp]

I took this Raven 6.0 proto's pics
it's my best friend's bike
It's a really funny bike, really easy to ride, very nervous on statics
But i hope on the public version the CS will be larger cause Maxxis High Roller 2.5 doesnt work....

[aki]

Rear disc :o I would dig that frame actually if I can go rear disc.

[tomaxp]

a little important details: the frame is handpainted (i dont konw if i can say that..lol)

so all Flaming edition are uniques :) It's WONDERFULL

[tomacropod]

your username freaks me out tomaxp. It snags me right in my periphery. something like a BT with disc mounts would be awesome. I want a BT with disc mounts.

- Joel

[Chris]

I got a note from the BT guys..

"The new BT Raven 6.0 photo will be publish for about 2 weeks.
Frames will be in stock in The middle of May."

[tomaxp]

hehehe what good news!! ;)

[Chris]

short update..

Wheelbase 1065mm or 1100mm
the final version of the frame will have a +50mm bb instead of +40mm
chainstays 375mm
weight 2kg

[Cryo-Cube]

+50
would really like to try that out

btw thats exactly what Chris mom said to me last night

[Chris]

lol you suck

[RomanC]

Rav will post the pictures in a few days. It should be a very pleasant surprise :)

[RT Wolf]

I hope you lot didn't put the bb on the top tube-seat tupe-top stay junction. Also, it shoudln't be able to span the small African nation of Swazilland.

Anyway, I can't wait to see it!

[tamu-hardrock]

any word on the pics!!!! why the hold up on the frames?

[RyanMcVicker]

word

[CoppellStereo]

word:werd:

[rush]

:Waerd:

[trauma100]

word exclamation 1. an affirmation of agreement. (Question: "I'm going to the movies tonight, dawg - you want to go?" Response: "Word!") 2. When used as a question, equivalent to "Are you serious?" ("Statement: "I met Michael Jackson!" Response: "Word?"

[hello?]

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