aussi universities

[WhiteRavenKS]

so i need some input and i would rather get it from you people than some uptight stiff at my school. im looking to do a study abroad program here at the university of colorado (because i hate it here, blah blah blah) and i want to go to australia.

the film program here has an extension in canberra with the australian national university and two in sydney (unsw and macquarie).

just trying to gague "locals" views on the schools and such. im probably going to end up there anyways but wanted to get your input to consider as well. thanks guys!

[Simonk]

anu is apparently the best uni in australia, but its hard to just say something like that because they all have their strengths and weaknesses. I dont really know anything about the media side of things, but unsw is also a good university, i dont know as much about macquarie but i think its not as prestigeous as unsw but still fairly good.

I think the biggest difference will be between living in canberra and living in sydney. canberra has a population of about 300 000, sydney is about 2 or 3 million (i think). canberra is much more trials friendly, but both sydney and canberra have great trials scenes. Sydney is on the coast, canberra isnt, although canberra is a couple of hours away from a few ski resorts if you're into that sort of thing.

[Elan]

i always thought canberra was on the coast. herrm. do the ski areas do the DH biking thing in the summer? that would be neat.

ive always wanted to come down to canberra for a few myself. have fun keveen.

[Simonk]

yeah dh is pretty big in thredbo in summer i think, ive never done it myself but they have pretty big races there

canberra is 2 hours drive from the nearest beach, thats probably its biggest downfall

[WhiteRavenKS]

someone told me sydney is kind of like paris in that the touristy areas are nice but the rest is kinda grungy- is this true? i guess it doesnt matter to me but whatevs. i guess i have no real perspective of how big aus really is and where stuff is relative to other stuff.... wow, that came out smart.

[PaulG]

canberra is a city born out of an argument when sydney and melbourne where arguing about whch one would be the national capital they couldn't decide so they made canbera in between, seriously thats what happned. but it's a nice place cold in winter so you won't be too homesick.

sydney has over 4 million i think becaus it's spose to be larger than Melbourne and we broke 3 a while ago i think canberra would be more CO like and as a bonus it is the Porn capital of Aus they even bus in yokals from around Aus to do sex toy tours, so you'll have plenty of oppurtunity to practice your filmmaking images/smilie/naughty.gif

[PaulG]

someone told me sydney is kind of like paris in that the touristy areas are nice but the rest is kinda grungy- is this true? i guess it doesnt matter to me but whatevs. i guess i have no real perspective of how big aus really is and where stuff is relative to other stuff.... wow, that came out smart.
sydney is just like any other city some places are better than others not as lets say defined as Paris, and less thieving gypsies :bigthumb:. forget uni and just come live in Melbourne most trials nicest city much beer :Sonic:

[Simonk]

here is a map that doesnt help much

[PaulG]

damn straight when i need to load up on malseeds thats where i go haha tasmania looks like a muff :weak:

[rush]

To put things in perspective, to drive from Melbourne to Canberra takes about 8 hours H-core. Canberra and Sydney both have really cool trials people.

Im from Melbourne and we are all either gay or stupid. :bigthumb:

You really must visit us in Melbourne wherever you end up.

[PaulG]

there is no "or" were gay and stupid wootang

[WhiteRavenKS]

holy shit, one inch equals 8 hours driving?! not like maps of england where one inch equals one minute driving. jeebus. i guess it may come down to price on where i end up. canberra is bling compared to one of the ones in sydney. melbourne doesnt have an extension with the film program here, boo-urns.

as soon as i made that last post i thought 'well i could just look at a map...' yeah im smart... pfft.

if i do go i will likely spend an extra month or two before or after the semester just livin in up south of the equator. it will be grand. thanks for all you guys' input so far!

[Simonk]

flying is very convenient to get around though, if you book in advance you can get canberra to adelaide or melbourne for 120 bucks return

[WhiteRavenKS]

not too shabby. i like cheap flights.

[watrialz.hopto.org_neil]

i'm from perth, way over on the west... most isolated city in the world i thinks?
at the moment i'm in one of the most populated cities.. shanghai... almost the entire australian population in 1 city
anyway, adam kelly rode from perth to newcastle, near sydney.
what a nutcase.... go AK!

[KyleT]

Oh yes, lets all forget about Adelaide, they don't exist, they just have the best trials competition in Australia..... :rofl:

We have 3 universites (that i know of) over here, namely University of Adelaide, University of South Australia and Flinders University. I don't know much about the last 2, but i don't think any of them have much in the way of film

[WhiteRavenKS]

yeah, i looked into that and i dont have any programs in adelaide. oh wells.

[rush]

You probably wouldnt want to go to Adelaide anyway. All the Tasmanians just swam over and imported their inbred ways to the SA population. Its a terrible thing.

Jokes, SA is loverly.

[alexm]

From what i know, the best uni in Aus to do any sort of film media is UTS (University of Technology in Sydney?) so if your uni doesn't do an extension with them then i would say you're best bet is the ANU. I'm a little biased because i want to make a film with you but i think the other uni's are not going to offer any real benefits over the ANU for media. if that made sense and you can't get into UTS then either go to a proper film school or go to the ANU.

[tomacropod]

if you have a choice of three unis and one of them is the ANU, go there. I go there. I love it, it's great. If you choose to live in Sydney you will get less accomodation for your money and I agree, most of Sydney is fairly dodgy. I don't like it at all. Canberra is a city/town of about 200,000 but it's physically large, there's very little high density housing and the average income is the highest in Australia, it's a top quality place and has plenty of cultural...stuff...and if you want to see a big band that isn't coming past, you can drive to Sydney in three hours for a day trip.

- Joel

[Peace]

UNSW is pretty sick to ride in!! If your into natty, canberra will bore you pretty quick... Sydneys coast is covered in rocks! sandstone.

If you go west yes sydney is shithouse! full of white trash and wogs who think they are gangsters... Stay near the coast (unsw is in randwick/kingsford 1km from ocean) and sydney is great! Canberra has got more riders yes, but they arent near Aykay (australias most enjoyable rider to watch!) I ride with him once a week usually.

Peace

[Elan]

quantas never crashed

[PaulG]

Canberra has got more riders yes, but they arent near Aykay (australias most enjoyable rider to watch!) I ride with him once a week usually.

Peace
hmm i like andy's 6 foot hook and 9 foot gaps to watch and joe's funnily UNsmooth :P

[WhiteRavenKS]

quantas never crashed
defff-definitely quantas. definitely.

[rush]

Qantas.

Im going to Tassie for the day tomorrow, ill take some rock pics and post those fuckers here.

[PaulG]

qantas Rapes you from behind with fees plus they have had "incedents" i hate qantas so bad stupid penguin fiddlers

[Peace]

Yes paul those guys go big, but who do you like watchin better? TRA or eddie tongue/chris akrigg....?

Aykay i swear is an Australia Eddie Tongue, can watch him for hours on natty, no one can argue that. You may have the privelige of seeing him ride in the flesh one day...

Bus yes he does lack the big ups and gaps. But still a joy to watch, even dickey and joe were saying "fuck that guy is good"

Enough about how much i wanna have Aykays children, Kevin.... if your a natty man, come to sydney. Oh and we might start callin ya Kev or Kevvo! Kev son. who knows what you will adopt. hehe
Peace

[WhiteRavenKS]

yes qantas. i should have been more clear in elan's fool spelling. quantas are the smallest packets of energy possible (ie- a photon). unless you start playing with string theory but let's not.

[alexm]

do what you think is best schoolwise, canberra and sydney are both so close to each other you could easily travel to the other one every weekend. canberra will be nicer and cheaper to live but it doesnt have a beach. i think the ANU will be a better Uni aswell. If you need me to sway you one way or another for the riding side of things then let me know. i'll give you a preview, canberra wins on the riding front, both spots to ride, frequency of rides and number of riders, canberra also wins on the school front. nightlife is shit though.

[WhiteRavenKS]

thats fine, my nightlife-ing isnt too exciting anyways, its mostly comprised of me sitting in front of my computer editing and bathing in music.

oh and peace- my closest friends already call me kev and kevo but it wouldnt hurt to evolve a new one seeing as how i would be on the other side of the planet.

the more i learn about this stuff the more im leaning to canberra. the schools in sydney are pretty spendy through this study abroad program. as it is i cant afford this whole deal anyways. i cant wait, this should be awesome.

[Peace]

yes nightlife eats balls but they have sick urban riding! which can also mean after a while you will get over it.... UNSW is so close to so many Natural spots and is an Urban spot in itself, my mate simon (SLB) lives next door to it.
If you want to have fun, go to the beach, ride endless natural, see really really hot chicks topless on the beach.... go sydney. a lot of us are moving places a lot of the time so even accommodation could be sorted out.
Canberra is fuckin awesome to go on trips to! Also on most of my days off i go on day trips up the coast to some really nice beach natty places, so you go for a ride and get fuckin exhausted, then mosey on back to the beach to cool off, nothing better. hehe i should really write a book about this.
Sure uni is important, but if your deciding JUST on uni, then stay home.... but if your comin over with riding and havin fun (with alcohol and women) in mind. Then sydney is ya best bet.
Peace

edit: you will evolve a nightlife if you come to sydney, UNSW has the uni bar/ roundhouse... which is good thrusdays and tends to get quite a lot of gigs on the w/e also ofcourse you get discounts on booze...

[Peace]

hmmm cant call ya kezz cos that is derrived from Kerrie.... Kevie maybe? bit camp....

we will think of somethin...
Peace

[hydroboy]

fuck me. lets all fight over kevin.

come to canberra. its like what i gather colorado is in the us and a. not to many rich fat fucks and fairly spread out. Sydney has some pretty sick riding i must admit, either will be cool though.

[tomacropod]

you can get to any riding spot in Canberra within 30 mins. To get to some Sydney ride spots, even if you live there, is a day trip. I'm going for a week down to the south coast from the 7-14 february so I'll be looking out for coastal natural that's worth a Canberra day trip. I think that will be the next step for Canberratrials. Embracing corrosion.

Oh that's one other good thing about Canberra, no saltwater corrosion. Nightlife isn't so bad, but I'm not all that into it myself. Much less likely to get mugged than in Sydney.

You have no shortage of places to stay until you get yourself sorted if you decide to come Kevin.

edit: Hydro, I think we're mostly fighting over the seemingly endless trail of near-perfect used bike components Kevin leaves behind.

- Joel

[AgrAde]

kevin, how long would you be in aus for?

[watrialz.hopto.org_neil]

thats fine, my nightlife-ing isnt too exciting anyways, its mostly comprised of me sitting in front of my computer editing and bathing in music.

the drinking age in australia is 18, not 21, in case that applies to you...

[tomacropod]

I don't think it applies to him, and I think that there are now very few US states where the age is 21. I doubt that Colorado is one of them. Texas is, but it doesn't seem to help them.

- Joel

[hydroboy]

Joel, check out bawley point, its pretty good looking. They are the only decent rocks i have found so far on the south coast.

[pav]

Haha you could go to ADFA but you might have to be an Aussie to do that. Thats the army uni or wateva it is. Thats in Canberra. The best UNI's i know of here in melbourne are monash uni and melbourne uni and the main campuses of them are fucking huge.

edit: go to a uni tahts in the city like melbourne uni is here then you can live on campus and go into the city everynight and that would be awesome.

[Peace]

omg those were a few low hits joel. no places in sydney are a day trip, in fact you can travel from maroubra to vaulcluse riding and make it a day trip... fuck thats a long ride, but natural all the way along. Pretty much got sydney mapped out now and the riding spots are very close, just gotta know where they are.

I have been in sydney 5 years now, not once have i gotten in a fight or been mugged.... go west and im sure the stakes will raise... west is shit i dont even like to call it sydney... Another thing, salt water corrosion is a myth , unless your bike is made of magnesium.... or you leave your bike submerged in salt water for a long time.

Not fighting for kevin, just saying if i were to come halfway around the world and had canberra and sydney as options.... sydney is the better experience! Thats what life is about.

Peace

p.s. i put a billion hairline fractures in your chainrings joel! hehe im lying.

[tomacropod]

Peace, you know what Canberra's like. Sydney scares me is all. I don't like going there. I'm sure it's nice enough if you hang around there long enough.

You got into a fight with a Kingia Australis at AK's comp. I suspect you won though, given that you had an age advantage. It looked about 400 years old.

- Joel

[Simonk]

poor kevin, he's all confused now.
people from sydney like sydney, people from canberra like canberra. is there a way you can transfer halfway through or something? or study in one place and spend the few months at the other? or clone yourself?

[Simonk]

oh yeah i just thought of a nickname, big kev

[Peace]

im guessing that is the scientific name for a hibiscus? aww shes alright we cable tied her back together :)

well i just went for a ride down along the beach (15m from where my shop is) and all i saw were lots of titties..... bout 35 degrees out now. fantastic!

Yeah sydney scared me when i first came here, but only cos i wasnt familiar with it... like anywhere new.

What about Mezzo (me-zo) for a nick name just a lil different from the last part of ya last name...
Peace

[hydroboy]

blackboys or somthing. They do take a while to grow.

[tomacropod]

grass trees/blackboys. You were caught on video at AK's comp. They grow about 5mm each year. It'll live, never mind. Just make sure you stick to exotic plants in future. Anyway the main (objective) disadvantage of living in Sydney is the cost of living at a certain standard. Canberra has you beaten there.

- Joel

[WhiteRavenKS]

oh yeah i just thought of a nickname, big kev
this kid down the hall from me always calls me "big stick"... actually he yells it, every time he sees me. he's a goofy kid but funny so whatevs.

ahhaha, i didnt mean for this explode! well yeah, thanks for all you guys' input. i guess i have to get it going with the school crap here. i would love to spend about 5-6 months there, preferably with not all of it in a school. i guess where ever i end up it will be really fun. looks like it will come down to a coin toss- and by coin toss i mean how much money i have to throw down! eek.

[Peace]

ah yes the blackboy, hey it was only the flower part of it and they grow those every year! the plant is fine, just no kids came of it that year.

Peace

[hydroboy]

dont think so bigboy.

[rush]

Soooooooo......................... :hsugh:

[stocktrials]

Kevin I would worry about your education/course first. Either city has good riding and good riders. I like Canberra because its a small city, the riders are close together. They manage to find spots to ride all over the place. I also like Sydney because its a big city, as one pizza pie has said there are beaches everywhere. Which means lots of rock riding :) Oh and the nightlife will grow on you.

UNSW is a nice, up to date place. Good riding in there.. but i will admit its a big place and intimidating if you don't know anyone. I know a few people that go there, they don't mind it.

Macquarie is a bitch to get to. I know people that go there from here and in that same time I can get to my uni at Wollongong (about 1 hr from Syd, 1.5 hrs from Canb). Plus its out west and blah.

Joel can tell you about ANU, I'm sure.

[WhiteRavenKS]

looks like ANU in canberra will have another over-sea-er type as soon as i can figure out the money situation. :)

[tomacropod]

that would be very cool - semester one starts on march 3rd. I'm really looking forward to going back.

- Joel

[WhiteRavenKS]

march 3rd eh... might not make it for that one. i think the earliest i can go through my stupid uni here is the spring 05 semester... i think that's fall here... but im confused... and dehydrated.

[hydroboy]

that would be very cool - semester one starts on march 3rd. I'm really looking forward to going back.

- Joel
21st of feb actually bigboy.

[tomacropod]

oh shit :grin:

You start O-week earlier than classes actually start methinks. That's why you can drink and shit all through O-week

- Joel

[tomacropod]

oh shit you're right. Pardon me. I'm really bad with dates. It's been a silly reason to fail classes in the past.

- Joel

[stocktrials]

hm i start that day aswell.. might have to come down before then hopefully! Maybe next week. Oh wait I think Chris & Craig from jjj are doin a show from the ANU on the 16th, and I can prob bring that tyre down with me Joel thus saving post.

[Yoda]

A yankee's perspective who lived in NSW for a year and Canberra for a year:

Kevin, Canberra is a good choice. If I remember right, the layout of the city was designed by an American? There are also hills and mountains nearby unlike Sydney. You have bike paths going everywhere so it's easy to get around on a bike, and public transportation is good in both Canberra and Sydney. I think there's even a train that goes between Canberra and Sydney. A train can get you anywhere in Sydney.

It does get cold in the winter, but not as cold as CO. I hardly ever wore a coat the whole time I was in Australia. You run brakes moto style right? That's good because they do down under too.

You're right about the good looking tourist areas and ghetto areas. But Canberra isn't as bad. Like the other guys were saying, Sydney coast is great, but go further West and it can get scary. I lived in Cambelltown, Liverpool, Hurstville areas and I had to go knocking on people's doors (mormon missionary), yeah some fun times with some crazy people.

Hopefully I'll get a chance to go back and visit sometime, there are some great places that are unlike anything you'll never see in the U.S., and the people for the most part are really friendly and laid back. Watch out for the annoying flies that buzz in your ears.

[Peace]

door knocking out there.....man you have balls!
i just feel yuck out there! its dirty and crap and full of wogs and their shit ass cars!

Peace

[stocktrials]

I lived in Cambelltown, Liverpool, Hurstville areas and I had to go knocking on people's doors (mormon missionary), yeah some fun times with some crazy people. Oh come on Hurstville isn't that bad, sure it does have wogs etc but I work and live around there.. in comparison to the other 2 areas listed its "safe" haha

[rush]

Blue Mountains. But pretty accurate Yoda, next time you come out let us all know.

[WhiteRavenKS]

wtf, i hate my school. some BS rule about being a jr before you can do some of the study abroad programs. so it looks like im doing summer school to get enough credits to get to aus in 06. the system can suck it. ok so i'll see you aussies in 06! im grumpy.

[tomacropod]

I'll still be there/here. Shame Kezza, but good luck with summer school. 'Twould be cool to have another foreign trials rider at the ANU (there already is, exciting huh?).

- Joel

[AgrAde]

you could always plan it so you're in aus while the uci champs are in nz, and come pay me a visit. it's like the 27th of august 06 or something.

[tomacropod]

well I'll be going. Being careful of my towel.

- Joel

[Peace]

oi adam, I really want to meet that jap/italian chick!!

Also I think we should loosen a bolt on simons frame each time he says "puff"

[Macbeth]

Her name's Bella.... And you better get your skates on, she'll be 17 soon, heaven forbid......

And there is no need to loosen shit on Simons bike, with his history of bicycle maintainence everything will work its way loose and never get tightened then fall out on the ground when he's in Newcastle or somewhere

[Peace]

17? bit old.... meh we'll se how hot she is.

[Macbeth]

And Rui is going back to Japan on March 8th..... Bella is her cousin, so you only got like two weeks.....

[Peace]

shit balls! :wtc:

[owen]

Kevin... two words - New-castle! Study at Newcastle uni, live in Hamilton. Enjoy beaches, pubs, cafes, chicks, and watching AK, and watching chicks, and watching chicks watching AK. I'll supply the chicks, and for that matter AK, he lives around the corner. Newcastle is way cheaper than Sydney or Canberra, plenty of city and natural riding. Rocky coastline from here to Sydney, 2 hours to Sydney.
I love how this has become a battle as to which town is better. I say we form gangs and have some riots, say cronulla this weekend??

Macbeth, So I was thinking maybe I should come and visit, maybe before march 8th... And was that photo on the other thread your flatmate? Or her cousin?

Peace, you are an inspiration to us all. I am soon to be unemployed so lets go riding then drinking then pick up some of your eastern suburbs girls. I may have to borrow some of your classy threads though, Im currently running Newcstle attire.

[Peace]

hey owen, not sure if you noticed but this thread dates back to Jan '05' :momaru: adam told me to dig up and old thread and talk about something completely random....

But yeah, you will def. have to come visit sydney! just bring some jeans shoes and rock a flannel shirt! (aykay has plenty) hehe

I havent ridden since pt elliot (lost front hub part :( ) but i should be ridin again soon... You been ridin? I bet you'd win sport now....... fuckin smartass.

Peace

[Macbeth]

Owen, did you read this entire thread??? :bowrofl:

[AgrAde]

is kevins still coming down?

[Peace]

who's kevin?

isnt he azians?

[AgrAde]

i thought he was that big black guy :dunno:

[owen]

:wtf: :wtf: