zebdi going bye bye?

[bmorekirby]

why is the zebdi not on the planet-x website? are they going to stop making it?

Kirby

[lowside]

the Ghost is coming...

[Bunnyhoppin Bob]

coming? They already got em for sale

http://www.thetrialsinshop.com/planetx.htm

[lowside]

yeah but im pretty sure us Canadians got it first, and then the US will switch from the Zebdi to the Ghost.

[bmorekirby]

has does the ghost differ from the zebdi geometry wise? where can i find a pic of one?

[lowside]

Here's a good pic of the ghost:

Geometry:

Wheelbase : 1023.9mm
Chainstay length: 400mm
Head angle: 74
Seat tube length: 310mm
(assuming 400mm fork)

Pic:

http://www.cycles-simtra.com/hires/pxtibowhitetrash.jpg

[WhiteRavenKS]

sweet zombie jesus- has anyone ever ovalized a px headtube? if so you must be boating the biggest nutsack ever...

[lowside]

in a fit of raging stupidity, i posted the wrong pic, that's a Tibo.

edit- why cant i edit that post?

[lowside]

GHOST
http://www.cycles-simtra.com/hires/pxghostwhitetrash.jpg

[lowside]

I feel bad about this blatant post whorery so here's the actual information you were looking for:

ZEBDI vs. GHOST
Head Tube: 74deg vs. 74 deg
Seat Tube: 74deg vs. 73 deg
Top Tube: 21.5in vs. 22.5in
Chainstay: 395mm vs. 400mm
Weight: 4.15lbs vs. 4.20lbs

Pretty similar, an extra inch of top tube is bound to feel different though.

[xxxfr]

that extra inch of top tube is only 3/4" longer though, the slacker seat tube makes the top tube a long piece of tubing, but doesnt make it any longer to ride

[bwagner]

the slacker seat tube makes the top tube a long piece of tubing, but doesnt make it any longer to rideI'm not a geometry wizard or anything, but do you think a single degree in seat angle change is enough to make the top tube an entire inch longer? I'm thinking it contributes a little bit, but that the cockpit length is longer feeling also. Add to that the longer stays(I know it's only a little longer) and I'm sure it's going to feel different.
Oh, and I HATE that fake ass weld on the downtube. Why the hell would they do that?? They should have just not included the weld detail in the hydroform, it would be much nicer to me if they had left it out.

[bmorekirby]

that headtube is fricken thick! its going to take some work to ovalize that thing.

Edit: Kick ass! i am a gold memember now! Does anyone know when this zebdi, to ghost switch is taking place?

[lowside]

It's already in the works.

Europe and Canada can't get the Zebdi anymore, I tried heh, and I think you guys will have limited quantities until they're sold out and then no more!

[Tipsy Jock]

Theres the alibongo frame as well, very similar to the tibo
alibongo = uci ish
ghost = streety ( designed to run a short travel fork i think)

[lowside]

The Alibongo is kind of weird, because it's basically the same as the Tibo, both are really really UCI, they seem to have a lot of overlap.

The Tibo is a new frame for 04 I think, if not 03 at the earliest, to already replace it doesnt make a lot of sense to me...

[Boo_Berry]

why would canada get it first?

[xxxfr]

if you read all on my post, its not a full inch, its 3/4" of an inch longer, i was just explaining that, i know a lot of people shop by tt length, as pointless as that measurement is

[lowside]

why would canada get it first?Because we are nicer, eh.

I think they use us as a testing ground, Europe got it before we did.

[bmorekirby]

Because we are nicer, eh.

if you say so? ha ha

[Ryden]

I disapprove of the whole switch. The Zebdi was a good mix and they went and split it up into a pure and a street, the two things it combined reasonably well...

[Bunnyhoppin Bob]

I wish they offered a option, with horizontal dropouts,

Perhaps i could chop em, and re weld em, and heat treat em

[lowside]

Of course we could keep it in perspective... the "street" is virtually identical... 5mm longer chainstay, I think we get too wrapped up in numbers, that's a half of a centimeter, seriously now.

However, the extra 3/4" of top tube is bound to feel different, I haven't ridden a Zebdi so I don't really know.

[xxxfr]

zebdi mk6 was offered w/ horiz drop outs....