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StraightMobbinAK
12-17-2004, 11:08 AM
It's gotta be one of the sickest looking moves I've seen yet. Does anyone have any suggestions for starting to learn it? Do you want to do a nearly static endo and just go easy on the brake once you're up on your front wheel? Or do you go at a slow pace and hit the brake to get up and then ease off the brake? Thanx
Dash
xxxfr
12-17-2004, 11:22 AM
easier but more dangerous w/ speed
and a front disc makes it A LOT easier in my opinion
practice on a slight down hill too
digby
12-17-2004, 12:20 PM
yup learn on a downhill hill, makes it easier but slightly scarier. When I learned them, it was on a bmx bike with chrome rims and 990s. I cannot state enough that modulation is key. When you get really good at them you will learn to balance like you would in a rear wheel manual without using the brake but this takes a good deal of time. Wear knee pads and learn to slide out. It takes alot of the fear out of this move. Other than that, get used to the move and learn not to be afraid of being on your front wheel at speed.
Bryan
12-17-2004, 02:54 PM
digby- how do you slide out? Isn't it a mighty long way to fall and slide, wouldn't you just crack your knee?
Disc is key. I haven't really practiced nose manuals, but now I can do a little poser stoppie every now and then, as opposed to the v brake which was an endo and then fall haha
xxxfr
12-17-2004, 04:29 PM
hahaha yea....
i can hop into nose manuals last like 10 feet then pop into a manual off the end.....took FOREVER to do that
digby
12-17-2004, 06:31 PM
dont get little pussy knee pads. I use to dirt jump and ride ramp, so I just used those pads. Rector Fatboys. You want something that will not rip off your knee when you contact the ground at speed, as the next thing to get ripped off will be your knee cap.
Watch x-games or some vert riding from skaters and watch how they fall. you kind of land on your feet for a second, keeping your weight back, relax your legs and let your knee pads take all the weight. Practice running and slliding on grass or carpet 1st and you will get it pretty quick. If you still have no idea what this means, think John Travolta in Saturday night fever sliding across the disco floor.
I hate discs for nose wheelies. My 8 inch avid scares me as I know I will squeeze a millimeter too hard and it will lock up on my ass.
On my bmx bike I used to be able to do about 70-80 foot nose wheelies, coming out of a bowl, on a small mini ramp or onto curbs.
StraightMobbinAK
12-17-2004, 06:55 PM
Siiiiiiiick. I think I know what you mean by sliding...I've seen it on vert. Sliding on concrete sounds gnarly as shit though. How thick are those pads you got? So ya just kinda pop into an endo on a downhill and let er rip? I'll give it a go. We got some nice GRASSY hills round here, so maybe I'll keep my knee caps for a while. I think I need em for other moves. Isn't there a way to jump over the bars without wrecking your balls and your bike? I think the answer lies in biker fox...lol, mos def Digby! Thanx all
ben@slctrials.com
12-17-2004, 07:03 PM
try to keep ur weight on top of the front hub, heres a how to video, it might help:ugh2:
http://www.slctrials.com/howto/gethowto.php?id=2
digby
12-17-2004, 07:34 PM
http://www.blackholeboards.com/html/R/Rector_Fatboy_Knee__BHB.html
The pads are pretty thick. You can bail on a jump at a pretty good speed, land full on, just on your knees and you'll be fine.
Ive tried out a few different knee pads, pro designed, hammer and rector fat boys. I like the rectors the most mainly cuz after you put them on, they dont move. Ive had prodrives move around on me and it sucks. Your sliding down a ramp and all of a sudden your kneepads are around your shin and you feel a burning in your knee. sliding on concretes fine, I would rather learn on a consistent surface like a slightly smooth tarmac surface than on grass. The little bumps can screw with your modulation and make you grab the brake too hard.
As for jumping over the bars, you gotta think about what your doing. If your crashing on a nose wheelie, its cuz you pulled the brake too hard and your flipping over anyways. You just gotta hold on a bit more and when you jump, you'll already be above the bars.
In the video your using pretty much all brake to stay up. When you do it right, at least for me, you kinda use the brake to get you up, then your up far enough that you can kinda balance it out, and use the brake very lightly to keep you there, or not at all sometimes. Its kinda like doing a power wheelie on the rear where the only reason the front wheel is still in the air is cuz your pedaling harder and harder. Your goal should be to keep it up there with balance not force.
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