Coustellier Frame Questions

Discussion in 'Observed Trials Discussion' started by [BMF]Andy, Jan 14, 2004.

  1. [BMF]Andy

    [BMF]Andy New Member

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    I am thinking of buying one of the new Coustellier stock frames but I have a few concerns. Anyone wanting to address them would be great.

    First, I will only run Vee-Brakes so who is going to make me some nice shiny adapters that don't sacrifice performance.

    Second, I know this is a little sacreligious but for the time being I will be using a Mavic D521 on the rear and im worried that brakes will not even be able to reach the rim. I think I heard of this problem with some of the Koxx frames.

    Third, I am using XTR cranks with the short 112.5mm spindle bottom bracket. Will the cranks clear the frame? If not will they even clear the frame with the 116mm spindle length.

    Concerning the first two topics. I have seen the woodman adapters and they look like they would both let me run Vee-Brakes and move the arms closer in towards the rim if it indeed was too narrow. Once I put a fat rim in there though I have read about clearance problems where the brake arms are too close to the rim.
     
  2. digby

    digby New Member

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    You can buy a 118 ultegra bb, its cheaper too. That should fit, it doesnt have the crazy wide xtp stays.
     

  3. [BMF]Andy

    [BMF]Andy New Member

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    Will it snap like a twig? It would seem to me that they would make the spindle thinner on a road bike bb just to save weight.
     
  4. Elan

    Elan steve french

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    try-all makes BB for the koxx. mvic is stupid. jsut forget about iot and use maguras. they arent that bad
     
  5. AndyT

    AndyT New Member

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    stick with your planet x.


    no adaptors made (produced) are worth 1/2 a shit.
     
  6. [BMF]Andy

    [BMF]Andy New Member

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    Try-All does not make an Octalink BB. The Mavic rim is awesome for what it is. Maguras blow chunder.

    Anyways maybe I will just have to make some adapters myself it can't really be that difficult.
     
  7. digby

    digby New Member

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    you would think they'd do that, but its actually pretty strong, I rode one for maybe a year or so, didnt snap or bend on me and I'm weighing in at 185.
     
  8. AndyT

    AndyT New Member

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    lets not start some completely useless maggie vs. vee debate :rolleyes:

    Why do you want a coos anyway?
     
  9. Elan

    Elan steve french

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    we are debating about hte mavic rim..where there is no ground for a pro-argument, only for the con.
     
  10. AndyT

    AndyT New Member

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    and it the yokes are anything like a koxx...118 may not help you out at all anyway.
     
  11. WhiteRavenKS

    WhiteRavenKS Well-Known Member

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    word.

    the coustellier frame- you can use the woodman adaptors with that frame IF you run a 521. the problem with the woodman piles is they are nto wdie enough to take the grith of a pornstar rim. you can have dibs on my woodman adaptors.

    your xtr cranks will need my ancient chinese secret remedy... 116/118 will not clear shit on that frame i bet. though it is not the same the the xtp in terms of how it looks like it will clear, you will have issues with the diameter of the ring/bash hitting the yoke- this frame is also designed around the front wheel wheel set ups. pm me if you want in on the tricky-magooo.
     
  12. smudge

    smudge Central Scrrrrrrrutinizer

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    Depending on when you plan on ordering your frame, I may be able to help you answer some of those questions. I signed up for the pre-order and should receive my frame when the first batch comes in. I also use XTR cranks and currently have a bunch of bottom brackets laying about (112, 116 and 118). If they don't work, I'll use Kevin's ancient Chinese secret BB solution which I'm sure will work. If you're in no hurry to run out and buy the frame. I'll report as soon as I can.

    Just for the record, Mavic 521's are great rims I used one for many good years until I sold the wheel...now it's being put to good use on a friend's trials bike AND I haven't needed to true it since I built it up. Sure it's not as wide as most of the more popular rims that are in use now, but it's solid and reasonably light.
     
  13. [BMF]Andy

    [BMF]Andy New Member

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    I want the frame because everyone has been talking about the long bikes and how nice they are. You have seen me Andrew I am 6'6", I figure if anyone is suited to a longer bike then it is probably me. Also my riding has been moving more towards the type that this bike is suited for. Anyways I still think a short bike has advantages over a long one but I want to give this thing a try.

    The BB deal sounds discouraging although I will keep the Ultegra in mind thanks for that suggestion digby. I will have to PM you Kevin and get this magical mystical secret you talk about.

    If anyone has any more ideas for overcoming these problems let me know.
     
  14. average mike

    average mike New Member

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    I think the magical secret is tandem bbs, is it not? im probably wrong though.
     
  15. AndyT

    AndyT New Member

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    I used an anciant IRISH secret to fit my cranks....has nothing to do with the bbs, hmmm I wonder what it was? I run 113 bb on these bikes :squint:
     
  16. Tanner

    Tanner New Member

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    Hey, I'm making Kevin some adapters on a CNC machine...so, if you want a pair like kev's, PM ME
     
  17. afrobot

    afrobot Aluminum is for recycling

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    Single malt scotch????
     
  18. hydroboy

    hydroboy "Jak se mas"

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    an angle grinder?
     
  19. OTAdmin

    OTAdmin Got more product than Ron Popeil Staff Member

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    Yeah, thats the second step though...

    The First ingredient in his recipe is a fifth of Bushmill's
     
  20. trialsbug

    trialsbug New Member

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    If you just want to give it a try why don't you buy a Pure or pick up a used Koxx. This would save you some money if it turns out that you don't like long frames.