Bad News- MSC

Discussion in 'Mountain States' started by WhiteRavenKS, Nov 24, 2003.

  1. WhiteRavenKS

    WhiteRavenKS Well-Known Member

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    Hey Everyone-

    Bad news... (well, in one sense)

    The cycle cyndicate mountain states cup events next year will NOT be having trials. im not sure what that means for the rest of the series but all of EJ's events next year will no longer be having trials. This is a huge bummer for Jeremiah and I who were going to be doing the events but at the same time it's really not a big shock either.

    If I find anything out about the other events in the MSC, I will post about them.

    As for now though, count on there being fewer but higher quality events... maybe the revival of the possible front range series? who knows- I will be talking with Jeremiah about this more in depth tonight when we are getting our asses handed to us by eric porter and the park.

    If anyone has any questions, comments, concerns- please email me- Whiteravenks@yahoo.com
     
  2. OTAdmin

    OTAdmin Got more product than Ron Popeil Staff Member

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    Not good to hear, but at the same time I'm not really surprised, and to be honest I've grown to despise the MSC.

    If I'm here this summer I'll help setup and tear down :) Thanks for letting us know Kevin, and thanks for all of the time you've put into this so far and will continue to put into our events.

    Bill
     

  3. Fast Fashion

    Fast Fashion Youth in Asia?

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    thank god! no more billion dollar entry fee's. This is the motavation we need to organize our own comps. If we can get a sponsor it should be easy.

    Hopefully the Nathrop comp that was put on last year will still be on though. I don't think it was MSC. YOu can expect another Road 34 comp also.

    kevin: you have a *few* connections out there. wonder if any of those people would sponsor some comps?
     
  4. WhiteRavenKS

    WhiteRavenKS Well-Known Member

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    indeed- im looking into them...

    my biggest concern is with the man crackin down on us. if we do it on private land we need to be in kahootz with the owner and if its on public/city land then we need to make darn sure it looks like a group ride. It stinks that we will not be getting the exposure of the population of people at msc events but at the same time, i agree with you dolphin that this will give us the necessary motivation to kick some ass on our own. if the rest of the cycling community doesnt want us around then fine, screw them- we do our own digs.
     
  5. AndyT

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    My main goal in comps is to get better, test your skills against others and have fun (ok not really the last part, but thats what most homies feel)...

    You don't need to pay $50 to do this.

    I'm not interested in lots of exposure, I see regular "underground" comps being fucking KEY in our advancement of skills. We need to have as many comps or mock comps as possible, you guys want to ride at a world level I can set up comps...horsetooth, veedawoo, poudre...whatever...


    Wait I don't ride trials... do I? :squint:
     
  6. Elan

    Elan steve french

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    my aunt and uncle own a really good piece of land here by georgetown. its basically a small boulder field, i bet there is potential for some great sections...... im pretty sure they would let us hold a private comp. if you ever want to come up and check it out, let me know.
     
  7. AndyT

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    :bigthumb:

    Just let us know when the darn snow melts!
     
  8. Elan

    Elan steve french

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    there isnt any snow, it all blew away... but it wont be nice until about may, depending on the weather..of course. but if anybody wants to come check it out, let me know.. you may or may not want to have a comp here, im not sure.
     
  9. WhiteRavenKS

    WhiteRavenKS Well-Known Member

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    i definately want to see the spot! the more we can open up possibilities, the better off we will be. if the place is good elan, i will definately want to do something there
     
  10. Elan

    Elan steve french

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    i think it has a ton of potential. there is also a spot where we can have some spectatin fun...i.e. a huge fucking ~10-12ft boulder wit ha falt top..i want to drop it so bad, but if i did, i just know id break shit..haha... if you ever have time, get ahold of me and you can come check it out? peace - elan
     
  11. Pancho

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    When it comes right down to it, we don't really need a whole lot of stuff to start with at a comp. A lot of the MTN states cup events gave us horrible places to build sections. I have a trailer and a TON of junk like spools, boxes, railroad ties, pallets, etc. Give me an open parking lot, and a couple of days to find stuff, I think I can build better sections than a lot of the Mtn States cup.

    However, Colorado Springs has atleast one place to hold comps FOR SURE, and we could hold 10 comps there and never even use the same rock. We also have several great possibilities that we haven't tried checking on yet.

    I have a feeling next season is going to turn out great, regardless of the MSC.
     
  12. Elan

    Elan steve french

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    do your parents still own that land taht we rode on last season? that is probably the best place ever...
     
  13. AndyT

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    I can make the hardest comp in the world, all I need is a hillside. Def. don't use any things man made.
     
  14. JHuskTrials

    JHuskTrials New Member

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    Hey guys, sorry I did not reply sooner. Soda and keyboards do not mix:(. It did aggravate me when I got the e-mail from Cycle Cyndicate. There was no reasoning (although I talked to some people and found out why).

    I posted on bike trials that if you have a place to hold a comp or know of a good place let us know. I would like to aproach some cities or counties to see if we can get the neccessary permits to hold a comp. I think Jeffco would be cool with a comp at one of the open space parks. Maybe at the top parking lot of Mt. Falcon. I have some contacts that I will, well uh contact.

    Jeremiah
     
  15. Pancho

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    We do still have the Cascade land, however it may be gone by the time the snow has melted in the spring.

    I agree that man made stuff sucks, but I'd rather have 3 awesome all natural comps and 7 mixed natural and man made comps rather than just simply 3 all natural. look at a lot of the euro's sections, a lot of them are ALL man made, like the french nationals when they built entire sections out of kegs. There is still a lot to be learned riding on the man made stuff.

    What do people think about more free-trials comps? We definitly have places to hold those around here. At least its a way for all of us to get together and ride.
     
  16. WhiteRavenKS

    WhiteRavenKS Well-Known Member

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    the more i have thought about this the more i am looking forward to not having to deal with the mountain states cup next year. there would have been some benifits to working with them but the trials community will be better off with more freedom i think.

    the springs, ft collins, boulder, maybe one at hartman rocks in gunnison (two gunni events?) and maybe durango? its not like we cant find places to do the comps. the hardest thing is going to the be possible red tape that jeremiah speaks of and attendence (folks gots to show to make it good).

    the comps do not have to be all natty. we need to ride some man made stuff too but not trash. what is really hard about us riding man made stuff is that it would be next to impossible to do it like the euros do. i cant see us getting the kind of materials that they have to work with all the time in europe. unless someone's uncle owns a cement hyrdo-conduit company that is... we should be able to have some really good comps. i would rather have 6 amacing ones that a dozen good ones though i think. im working on some product sponsors right now to see about getting some prizes lined up for these comps. so poops magee- we probably wont be getting cash bling for pro top threes but at least some classes will be getting something.

    as for free trials comps- they are fun and all, we should continue to have more but i think they should be back seat to traditional comps. just my own personal opinion. we will get much better from uci style competing than we will in free-trials comps. i am looking forward to some next year but not nearly as much as i am looking forward to ol' fashioned sections.
     
  17. Elan

    Elan steve french

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    i dont care i guess..i just wanna ride..either natty or man made... id rather do natty, but i have no qualms when it comes to man made.
     
  18. JHuskTrials

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    What about the Silver Creek land? Where they had the Battle of the Bear Dual race last season. I know we could arrange that for sure, and it is right by Idaho Springs. This means minimal driving for all of the front range riders.

    Jeremiah
     
  19. Elan

    Elan steve french

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    haha..do you mean the Clear Creek Rafting Company? i live 3 miles from that place, i helped set up the trials sections, but that fucker got snowed out as we all know..... the spot im talking about is private land, about 4 miles up the road from last years "battle of the bear", it is not owned by the rafting company, who will definately not let us ride on their land without MSC sanctioning anyways.
     
  20. JHuskTrials

    JHuskTrials New Member

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    First off, you guys should have come up there. I scooped all of the snow off bright and early and we could have held the comp. Second of all, I know we could hold a comp there. We would have to get it NORBA sanctioned for insurance reasons, but it would not have to be MSC.

    But if you have land available near there that should work fine.